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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 26, 2020 18:40:54 GMT
Total BS from TfL, do they really think that everyone would let all the kids get on the bus and wait an hour for them to go (fat chance) The kids are likely to cram the buses and not bother with social distancing either. If they could not even control non key workers flooding the tube 5 months ago, what makes them think they would be able to police over 2000 bus stops. |
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Post by connor on Aug 26, 2020 18:55:17 GMT
Total BS from TfL, do they really think that everyone would let all the kids get on the bus and wait an hour for them to go (fat chance) The kids are likely to cram the buses and not bother with social distancing either. If they could not even control non key workers flooding the tube 5 months ago, what makes them think they would be able to police over 2000 bus stops. it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 19:12:19 GMT
Total BS from TfL, do they really think that everyone would let all the kids get on the bus and wait an hour for them to go (fat chance) The kids are likely to cram the buses and not bother with social distancing either. If they could not even control non key workers flooding the tube 5 months ago, what makes them think they would be able to police over 2000 bus stops. it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Government taking a huge gamble on this - children in bubbles all day at school (To keep distance) then mixing on transport. Then of course this is assuming they wear masks on buses!
Been so many U turns lately I expect more changes to the rules 24 hours before school starts.
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Post by connor on Aug 26, 2020 19:23:56 GMT
it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Government taking a huge gamble on this - children in bubbles all day at school (To keep distance) then mixing on transport. Then of course this is assuming they wear masks on buses!
Been so many U turns lately I expect more changes to the rules 24 hours before school starts.
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Post by 725DYE on Aug 26, 2020 20:53:35 GMT
Total BS from TfL, do they really think that everyone would let all the kids get on the bus and wait an hour for them to go (fat chance) The kids are likely to cram the buses and not bother with social distancing either. If they could not even control non key workers flooding the tube 5 months ago, what makes them think they would be able to police over 2000 bus stops. it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. |
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Post by connor on Aug 26, 2020 21:09:40 GMT
it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. I know |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 26, 2020 23:50:20 GMT
it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. You do also have the flip side, some people think it's their duty to police others on the face mast rule. The other day I was with my 2 year old cousin and someone came and asked me why he wasn't wearing a mask. I didn't even respond to her, just gave her a look. There was also another case on the 388 where a woman on the lower deck was shouting at everyone who boarded without their face covered. Thankfully one guy soon asked her to display her ID badge which gave her the right to enforce this - I'll probably start doing this myself next time it happens. I think people should wear masks, however realistically it's not going to happen until every train and bus has someone on board enforcing it. Then regardless you will always have exemptions so it's impossible to get everyone to wear one. I think the best solution to this is to just not use public transport if you are not willing to take the risk - it certainly shouldn't be the case as everyone should feel safe using public transport but the sad reality is that there are people who just will not wear a mask and realistically we can't do anything about it. Everything we do now when we leave the house is going to be a risk, and it's up to us to juggle these risks. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 8:16:46 GMT
it was mentioned that the kids on the school buses won’t need to social distance and they will be required to wear a mask Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. This is why I only sit in first class on Thameslink trains from Sutton in either direction. Not many yobs in first class. |
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Post by Green Kitten on Aug 27, 2020 10:06:03 GMT
Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. You do also have the flip side, some people think it's their duty to police others on the face mast rule. The other day I was with my 2 year old cousin and someone came and asked me why he wasn't wearing a mask. I didn't even respond to her, just gave her a look. There was also another case on the 388 where a woman on the lower deck was shouting at everyone who boarded without their face covered. Thankfully one guy soon asked her to display her ID badge which gave her the right to enforce this - I'll probably start doing this myself next time it happens. I think people should wear masks, however realistically it's not going to happen until every train and bus has someone on board enforcing it. Then regardless you will always have exemptions so it's impossible to get everyone to wear one. I think the best solution to this is to just not use public transport if you are not willing to take the risk - it certainly shouldn't be the case as everyone should feel safe using public transport but the sad reality is that there are people who just will not wear a mask and realistically we can't do anything about it. Everything we do now when we leave the house is going to be a risk, and it's up to us to juggle these risks. Karens gonna Karen. And besides, 2 year old children shouldn't wear masks anyway (gov guidelines). Masking young children is horrible. This mask fad should be a temporary measure. Therefore, an enforcement officer on each bus and train isn't viable. Gov probably can't afford it now anyway. (Is the ludicrous doubling fine system for not wearing a face covering a way to grab more money off the people, I wonder.) So I agree - if you're at risk or simply fearful, stay away. |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 27, 2020 11:05:36 GMT
You do also have the flip side, some people think it's their duty to police others on the face mast rule. The other day I was with my 2 year old cousin and someone came and asked me why he wasn't wearing a mask. I didn't even respond to her, just gave her a look. There was also another case on the 388 where a woman on the lower deck was shouting at everyone who boarded without their face covered. Thankfully one guy soon asked her to display her ID badge which gave her the right to enforce this - I'll probably start doing this myself next time it happens. I think people should wear masks, however realistically it's not going to happen until every train and bus has someone on board enforcing it. Then regardless you will always have exemptions so it's impossible to get everyone to wear one. I think the best solution to this is to just not use public transport if you are not willing to take the risk - it certainly shouldn't be the case as everyone should feel safe using public transport but the sad reality is that there are people who just will not wear a mask and realistically we can't do anything about it. Everything we do now when we leave the house is going to be a risk, and it's up to us to juggle these risks. Karens gonna Karen. And besides, 2 year old children shouldn't wear masks anyway (gov guidelines). Masking young children is horrible. This mask fad should be a temporary measure. Therefore, an enforcement officer on each bus and train isn't viable. Gov probably can't afford it now anyway. (Is the ludicrous doubling fine system for not wearing a face covering a way to grab more money off the people, I wonder.) So I agree - if you're at risk or simply fearful, stay away. I don't see any problem in people politely reminding others that a face covering is required, some people do forget and I have done so myself. There is no requirement for young children to wear them although some want to wear them. There has been some enforcement on public transport by staff although the police will have enough to deal with at the moment. Unless someone has a medical exemption how difficult is it to just comply? It's a minor inconvenience at the most and it's those that don't want to wear them that should stay away. |
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Post by Green Kitten on Aug 27, 2020 11:09:54 GMT
Karens gonna Karen. And besides, 2 year old children shouldn't wear masks anyway (gov guidelines). Masking young children is horrible. This mask fad should be a temporary measure. Therefore, an enforcement officer on each bus and train isn't viable. Gov probably can't afford it now anyway. (Is the ludicrous doubling fine system for not wearing a face covering a way to grab more money off the people, I wonder.) So I agree - if you're at risk or simply fearful, stay away. I don't see any problem in people politely reminding others that a face covering is required, some people do forget and I have done so myself. There is no requirement for young children to wear them although some want to wear them. There has been some enforcement on public transport by staff although the police will have enough to deal with at the moment. Unless someone has a medical exemption how difficult is it to just comply? It's a minor inconvenience at the most and it's those that don't want to wear them that should stay away. There are stickers on every bus on the doors. Some people have exemptions indeed. It's not really yours or any other passenger's business. |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 27, 2020 11:16:25 GMT
I don't see any problem in people politely reminding others that a face covering is required, some people do forget and I have done so myself. There is no requirement for young children to wear them although some want to wear them. There has been some enforcement on public transport by staff although the police will have enough to deal with at the moment. Unless someone has a medical exemption how difficult is it to just comply? It's a minor inconvenience at the most and it's those that don't want to wear them that should stay away. There are stickers on every bus on the doors. Some people have exemptions indeed. It's not really yours or any other passenger's business. If they have an exemption then all well and good but as I said I don't see any harm in people politely reminding others. If I jumped on a bus or train without one in a moment of forgetfulness and somebody politely reminded me I wouldn't have a problem with that. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 27, 2020 11:20:26 GMT
Karens gonna Karen. And besides, 2 year old children shouldn't wear masks anyway (gov guidelines). Masking young children is horrible. This mask fad should be a temporary measure. Therefore, an enforcement officer on each bus and train isn't viable. Gov probably can't afford it now anyway. (Is the ludicrous doubling fine system for not wearing a face covering a way to grab more money off the people, I wonder.) So I agree - if you're at risk or simply fearful, stay away. I don't see any problem in people politely reminding others that a face covering is required, some people do forget and I have done so myself. There is no requirement for young children to wear them although some want to wear them. There has been some enforcement on public transport by staff although the police will have enough to deal with at the moment. Unless someone has a medical exemption how difficult is it to just comply? It's a minor inconvenience at the most and it's those that don't want to wear them that should stay away. Issue being you never know of the other person's circumstance, someone shouldn't be subjected to defending themselves all the time as to why they're not wearing a mask. It's nobody's business, obviously in the case that 725DYE mentioned earlier there's a very likely chance that they just weren't complying however you never know what circumstances people have. |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 27, 2020 11:21:08 GMT
Kids wearing masks?? PAH, good luck getting all adults to comply. Classic case in example yesterday on my Thameslink train. Bunch of maskless yobs get on at West Sutton running up and down the train, and then to make it worse they started shouting between carriages, asking each other if the train was going to Wimbledon. Studies have already strongly suggested that singing louder spreads the virus more rapidly so you can imagine how uncomfortable I felt when these fools started shouting right down the train. Maybe if they were paying enough sodding attention to what train they were on, they wouldn't have needed to be shouting like this, although there is no justification for shouting, pandemic or otherwise. Maybe (as I said the other day) if people were aware that wearing masks protects others and not themselves they would be a tad less selfish. It's not cool to go around breaking government rules designed to protect the people. The irony is I'm not that much older than these people, but what can I say. Different schools of thought. This is why I only sit in first class on Thameslink trains from Sutton in either direction. Not many yobs in first class. There seems to be a lot of abuse of first class on Thameslink Orpington and Sevenoaks services, probably to use the phone charging facility and ticket checks are rare to non existent. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 27, 2020 11:46:42 GMT
There are stickers on every bus on the doors. Some people have exemptions indeed. It's not really yours or any other passenger's business. If they have an exemption then all well and good but as I said I don't see any harm in people politely reminding others. If I jumped on a bus or train without one in a moment of forgetfulness and somebody politely reminded me I wouldn't have a problem with that. Ok that's you and I mean that in a nice way though you won't believe me, but not everyone will react like that and many people will rightfully say it's none of your business. This is why many shops won't do it because this is how incidents start - we have enough incidents going on such as an assault that has left one of our staff unable to return over the last few weeks and that's without monitoring who is wearing them & who isn't . |
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