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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 10:49:05 GMT
This freedom day nonsense came from the media. I don't see the point in it, even calling for a bank holiday; what a load of rubbish Definitely calling for a bank holiday is unnecessary. I think the term 'pingdemic' also came from the media, and they are exaggerating how bad the situation is. Yes there have been lots of key workers self isolating but the shelves in the shops I have been to have never been anywhere near empty, and the only reason why they would is because people panic buy, and other people see them panic buy so they do the same. Let’s be clear panic buying is a product of main stream media like the Daily Mail publishing articles about empty shelves and a lack of truck drivers.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 27, 2021 12:16:15 GMT
In third world countries children are starving........ in the UK there is a childhood obesity crisis. You are assuming everyone in the third world as you put it are starving. A total BS stereotype created by the media. Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 12:30:07 GMT
You are assuming everyone in the third world as you put it are starving. A total BS stereotype created by the media. Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. Food isn’t just about calories and consumption. You have to eat the right things and if all their parents can afford is junk food like chips and sweets but cannot afford nutritionally valuable food like vegetables and fruit than that child can be starving. They may not look it but they can be. It is a fact that you can be overweight and simultaneously starving.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 12:32:59 GMT
Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. Food isn’t just about calories and consumption. You have to eat the right things and if all their parents can afford is junk food like chips and sweets but cannot afford nutritionally valuable food like vegetables and fruit than that child can be starving. They may not look it but they can be. It is a fact that you can be overweight and simultaneously starving. potatoes can be cooked in more healthy ways ... not all potatoes have to end up as chips in any household. Sweets are not cheap and can easily be substituted for fruit or veg. A lot of nutritional mismanagement is down to parental laziness, though appreciate it is not in all cases.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 27, 2021 12:34:01 GMT
Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. Food isn’t just about calories and consumption. You have to eat the right things and if all their parents can afford is junk food like chips and sweets but cannot afford nutritionally valuable food like vegetables and fruit than that child can be starving. They may not look it but they can be. It is a fact that you can be overweight and simultaneously starving. Starving is basically a lack of food but quite right about junk food and many adults are just as bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 12:41:05 GMT
Food isn’t just about calories and consumption. You have to eat the right things and if all their parents can afford is junk food like chips and sweets but cannot afford nutritionally valuable food like vegetables and fruit than that child can be starving. They may not look it but they can be. It is a fact that you can be overweight and simultaneously starving. Starving is basically a lack of food but quite right about junk food and many adults are just as bad. By definition yes, but malnourishment from lack of vitamins or healthy foods can also be a form of starvation. It’s why you sometimes see these people that only eat one type of food looking so skinny, because their bodies are in starvation mode and literally suck all of the nutrients out of anything they consume for fuel.
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Post by 725DYE on Jul 27, 2021 13:05:40 GMT
You are assuming everyone in the third world as you put it are starving. A total BS stereotype created by the media. Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. That's still reflective of an unbalanced diet. Many people seemingly forget that malnutrition goes both ways it isn't simply defined by not eating enough.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 13:10:23 GMT
Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. That's still reflective of an unbalanced diet. Many people seemingly forget that malnutrition goes both ways it isn't simply defined by not eating enough. What % of parents could do more to ensure their kids have a more balanced diet. I guessing it is not 0%. So a good number of parents can do more.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2021 13:12:31 GMT
This freedom day nonsense came from the media. I don't see the point in it, even calling for a bank holiday; what a load of rubbish Definitely calling for a bank holiday is unnecessary. I think the term 'pingdemic' also came from the media, and they are exaggerating how bad the situation is. Yes there have been lots of key workers self isolating but the shelves in the shops I have been to have never been anywhere near empty, and the only reason why they would is because people panic buy, and other people see them panic buy so they do the same. We know the media like to exaggerate but it’s actually true when it comes to shelves being empty and it’s actually not mostly panic buying this time. There is currently a shortage of delivery drivers across the supermarket industry due to many isolating but also due to many returning home as a result of the visa situation - my supermarket especially has been hit particularly hard where we’ve had low levels of deliveries for a month and a bit now and I was even told last week Thursday not to come in because there was literally no work. I’ve seen the images elsewhere and they’re backed up by accounts I’ve been told from people working in other supermarkets like Tesco. There’s also a shortage of shop floor staff as well stretching the work flow of some supermarkets - we’ve been hit by this a few times over the past month, so I accept it’s very easy to say something is exaggerated given the media’s record but in this case, it’s not really
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2021 13:16:51 GMT
That's still reflective of an unbalanced diet. Many people seemingly forget that malnutrition goes both ways it isn't simply defined by not eating enough. What % of parents could do more to ensure their kids have a more balanced diet. I guessing it is not 0%. The reason why parents choose the junk food over the fruit & vegetables comes down to time & in some cases money. Working class and even some middle class families do not have time to actually prepare food due to work life hence why they buy junk food and hence why the delivery sector is booming.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 13:17:40 GMT
Definitely calling for a bank holiday is unnecessary. I think the term 'pingdemic' also came from the media, and they are exaggerating how bad the situation is. Yes there have been lots of key workers self isolating but the shelves in the shops I have been to have never been anywhere near empty, and the only reason why they would is because people panic buy, and other people see them panic buy so they do the same. We know the media like to exaggerate but it’s actually true when it comes to shelves being empty and it’s actually not mostly panic buying this time. There is currently a shortage of delivery drivers across the supermarket industry due to many isolating but also due to many returning home as a result of the visa situation - my supermarket especially has been hit particularly hard where we’ve had low levels of deliveries for a month and a bit now and I was even told last week Thursday not to come in because there was literally no work. I’ve seen the images elsewhere and they’re backed up by accounts I’ve been told from people working in other supermarkets like Tesco. There’s also a shortage of shop floor staff as well stretching the work flow of some supermarkets - we’ve been hit by this a few times over the past month, so I accept it’s very easy to say something is exaggerated given the media’s record but in this case, it’s not really Can I go a little off-line here and ask is it always the same line of stock that has delivery issues, or does it rotate?
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Post by greenboy on Jul 27, 2021 13:18:34 GMT
Fair point about the media, the point I was making is how many kids are genuinely starving in this country? Over eating seems to be the problem. That's still reflective of an unbalanced diet. Many people seemingly forget that malnutrition goes both ways it isn't simply defined by not eating enough. Absolutely and a bad diet isn't necessarily linked to poverty.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 27, 2021 13:19:47 GMT
What % of parents could do more to ensure their kids have a more balanced diet. I guessing it is not 0%. The reason why parents choose the junk food over the fruit & vegetables comes down to time & in some cases money. Working class and even some middle class families do not have time to actually prepare food due to work life hence why they buy junk food and hence why the delivery sector is booming. Time is not due to poverty ... if they really thought it was that important, they would take 30 minutes out their day do cook a meal ... or are other things more important than their child's health. Alternatively, just order something that is more healthy. From what I seen from a cross section of friends and acquaintances I regularly see, some just feed them anything that is instant to keep them quiet, without any thought as to whether it is good for them . Sweets, chocolates and crisps are handed out as though they are going out of fashion.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 27, 2021 13:26:43 GMT
We know the media like to exaggerate but it’s actually true when it comes to shelves being empty and it’s actually not mostly panic buying this time. There is currently a shortage of delivery drivers across the supermarket industry due to many isolating but also due to many returning home as a result of the visa situation - my supermarket especially has been hit particularly hard where we’ve had low levels of deliveries for a month and a bit now and I was even told last week Thursday not to come in because there was literally no work. I’ve seen the images elsewhere and they’re backed up by accounts I’ve been told from people working in other supermarkets like Tesco. There’s also a shortage of shop floor staff as well stretching the work flow of some supermarkets - we’ve been hit by this a few times over the past month, so I accept it’s very easy to say something is exaggerated given the media’s record but in this case, it’s not really Can I go a little off-line here and ask is it always the same line of stock that has delivery issues, or does it rotate? A bit of both - some stock has been hard to come by over the past 6 months but some have happened since the deliveries began drying up
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Post by wirewiper on Jul 27, 2021 13:37:42 GMT
What % of parents could do more to ensure their kids have a more balanced diet. I guessing it is not 0%. The reason why parents choose the junk food over the fruit & vegetables comes down to time & in some cases money. Working class and even some middle class families do not have time to actually prepare food due to work life hence why they buy junk food and hence why the delivery sector is booming. Poor diet can be down to a number of factors: - lack of nutritional awareness/knowledge - lack of ability to prepare healthy, balance meals - lack of access to healthier ingredients - lack of money to buy healthier ingredients All of these need interventions at many different levels if we are to improve the nutritional health of people in the UK, which is amongst the worst in the developed world. Rather than beating people with sticks about their diets, we need to offer them carrots (in both senses of the word).
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