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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 13, 2021 18:30:08 GMT
Seems a rather pointless gesture, obviously if nobody wanted to shop Boxing Day they wouldn't be open anyway. Seems that more and more people don't celebrate Christmas to any great extent and are often glad to get out of the house by Boxing Day. Supermarkets are generally dead just after Christmas ... everyone brought too much food the week before ... imagine it will be appreciated by the staff Not round my way they aren’t, still plenty of punters after Christmas. Don’t forget as it stands this could be the busiest Christmas for a long time if things remain as they are. Families weren’t allowed, although many did, to get together last year so there will that desire for many to have as many relatives over this year as possible.
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Post by WH241 on Sept 13, 2021 19:11:41 GMT
Seems a rather pointless gesture, obviously if nobody wanted to shop Boxing Day they wouldn't be open anyway. Seems that more and more people don't celebrate Christmas to any great extent and are often glad to get out of the house by Boxing Day. Supermarkets are generally dead just after Christmas ... everyone brought too much food the week before ... imagine it will be appreciated by the staff Exactly! To say it is a pointless gesture shows peoples views of retail staff but then there always has seemed to be a bit a better than them view taken towards those lower down the chain doing menial jobs from some people! I would certain taken a day off regardless how pointless it seems to others (I don't work in retail).
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 13, 2021 19:49:04 GMT
So presumably they’ll just close the Sunday when shopping hours are at their smallest and then reopen for normal hours Monday and Tuesday, as both are considered bank holidays normal trading rules apply. Hardly seems worth it. Seems a rather pointless gesture, obviously if nobody wanted to shop Boxing Day they wouldn't be open anyway. Seems that more and more people don't celebrate Christmas to any great extent and are often glad to get out of the house by Boxing Day. I'd say boxing day sales are why Boxing day is so busy as opposed to people desperately wanting to leave home. Not sure what planet you're living on as Christmas squeezes more and more money out of us each year suggesting its being adopted more widely if anything.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 13, 2021 19:58:55 GMT
Seems a rather pointless gesture, obviously if nobody wanted to shop Boxing Day they wouldn't be open anyway. Seems that more and more people don't celebrate Christmas to any great extent and are often glad to get out of the house by Boxing Day. I'd say boxing day sales are why Boxing day is so busy as opposed to people desperately wanting to leave home. Not sure what planet you're living on as Christmas squeezes more and more money out of us each year suggesting its being adopted more widely if anything. The planet I'm on is where people are out and about a lot more on both Christmas day and Boxing Day rather than sitting at home all day.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 13, 2021 20:11:30 GMT
I'd say boxing day sales are why Boxing day is so busy as opposed to people desperately wanting to leave home. Not sure what planet you're living on as Christmas squeezes more and more money out of us each year suggesting its being adopted more widely if anything. The planet I'm on is where people are out and about a lot more on both Christmas day and Boxing Day rather than sitting at home all day. IDoing what exactly?
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Post by WH241 on Sept 13, 2021 20:31:09 GMT
I'd say boxing day sales are why Boxing day is so busy as opposed to people desperately wanting to leave home. Not sure what planet you're living on as Christmas squeezes more and more money out of us each year suggesting its being adopted more widely if anything. The planet I'm on is where people are out and about a lot more on both Christmas day and Boxing Day rather than sitting at home all day. Next you will be saying buses should run Christmas Day.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 13, 2021 20:50:03 GMT
The planet I'm on is where people are out and about a lot more on both Christmas day and Boxing Day rather than sitting at home all day. Next you will be saying buses should run Christmas Day. I do find it selfish when people want buses and shops to open on Christmas Day just so that they can enjoy themselves that day without sparing a single thought to the drivers and retail workers who are probably being blackmailed by their companies to come in, just like how many companies already do with Boxing Day. People who work in shops and run the transport network also have families and lives and it's nice to just give them a day that they can spend with family, knowing that the rest of their family is also likely to have a day off too. The next argument that follows it tends to be the "well not everyone wants to celebrate Christmas, I'm sure they'll be happy to work". But what company on earth would plan on staff "maybe" wanting to work? The only way to ensure you can open is by forcing people through contracts. Before you know it that one day families can actually spend time together can't even do that anymore.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 13, 2021 21:10:18 GMT
Seems a rather pointless gesture, obviously if nobody wanted to shop Boxing Day they wouldn't be open anyway. Seems that more and more people don't celebrate Christmas to any great extent and are often glad to get out of the house by Boxing Day. Supermarkets are generally dead just after Christmas ... everyone brought too much food the week before ... imagine it will be appreciated by the staff As someone who actually works in a supermarket (of sorts), I'd certainly appreciate it if we had the same thing. As you say, the first couple of days after Christmas Day is usually dead and that's from 12 years of experience - everyone goes bananas on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day obviously shut and then Boxing Day till about the 28th is pretty quiet before it picks up a bit in time for New Years Eve and then goes back to being dead for a couple of days usually until the first day back to school.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 13, 2021 21:20:59 GMT
Next you will be saying buses should run Christmas Day. I do find it selfish when people want buses and shops to open on Christmas Day just so that they can enjoy themselves that day without sparing a single thought to the drivers and retail workers who are probably being blackmailed by their companies to come in, just like how many companies already do with Boxing Day. People who work in shops and run the transport network also have families and lives and it's nice to just give them a day that they can spend with family, knowing that the rest of their family is also likely to have a day off too. The next argument that follows it tends to be the "well not everyone wants to celebrate Christmas, I'm sure they'll be happy to work". But what company on earth would plan on staff "maybe" wanting to work? The only way to ensure you can open is by forcing people through contracts. Before you know it that one day families can actually spend time together can't even do that anymore. Some people are quite happy to work over Christmas, not everyone wants to sit at home all day and Boxing Day invariably sees a spike in domestic violence incidents.
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 13, 2021 21:34:02 GMT
I do find it selfish when people want buses and shops to open on Christmas Day just so that they can enjoy themselves that day without sparing a single thought to the drivers and retail workers who are probably being blackmailed by their companies to come in, just like how many companies already do with Boxing Day. People who work in shops and run the transport network also have families and lives and it's nice to just give them a day that they can spend with family, knowing that the rest of their family is also likely to have a day off too. The next argument that follows it tends to be the "well not everyone wants to celebrate Christmas, I'm sure they'll be happy to work". But what company on earth would plan on staff "maybe" wanting to work? The only way to ensure you can open is by forcing people through contracts. Before you know it that one day families can actually spend time together can't even do that anymore. Some people are quite happy to work over Christmas, not everyone wants to sit at home all day and Boxing Day invariably sees a spike in domestic violence incidents. I can’t stand working at Christmas, this year I shall finish on December 17th and I’ll be back on January 4th. I always take at least two weeks for my birthday, two weeks at Christmas and a couple of other weeks throughout the year.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 13, 2021 21:37:25 GMT
I do find it selfish when people want buses and shops to open on Christmas Day just so that they can enjoy themselves that day without sparing a single thought to the drivers and retail workers who are probably being blackmailed by their companies to come in, just like how many companies already do with Boxing Day. People who work in shops and run the transport network also have families and lives and it's nice to just give them a day that they can spend with family, knowing that the rest of their family is also likely to have a day off too. The next argument that follows it tends to be the "well not everyone wants to celebrate Christmas, I'm sure they'll be happy to work". But what company on earth would plan on staff "maybe" wanting to work? The only way to ensure you can open is by forcing people through contracts. Before you know it that one day families can actually spend time together can't even do that anymore. Some people are quite happy to work over Christmas, not everyone wants to sit at home all day and Boxing Day invariably sees a spike in domestic violence incidents. Some people do, but if you need x number of staff for a skeleton service but not enough people voulenteer, do you cut what service you were planning to offer or make people work. If you advertise a service you cant deliver, you can imagine the chaos that would entail. When I started work, trying to get anytime off work as annual leave over Xmas and New Year was almost impossible as the junior. Is it still like that today? Question being thrown out there to those starting out on their working experience.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 13, 2021 22:33:58 GMT
Some people are quite happy to work over Christmas, not everyone wants to sit at home all day and Boxing Day invariably sees a spike in domestic violence incidents. Some people do, but if you need x number of staff for a skeleton service but not enough people voulenteer, do you cut what service you were planning to offer or make people work. If you advertise a service you cant deliver, you can imagine the chaos that would entail. When I started work, trying to get anytime off work as annual leave over Xmas and New Year was almost impossible as the junior. Is it still like that today? Question being thrown out there to those starting out on their working experience. A friend of mine used to work in security and they were never short of volunteers to work Christmas Day for an enhanced rate of pay. Boxing Day seems pretty much like a normal Sunday nowadays.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 13, 2021 22:47:38 GMT
Some people do, but if you need x number of staff for a skeleton service but not enough people voulenteer, do you cut what service you were planning to offer or make people work. If you advertise a service you cant deliver, you can imagine the chaos that would entail. When I started work, trying to get anytime off work as annual leave over Xmas and New Year was almost impossible as the junior. Is it still like that today? Question being thrown out there to those starting out on their working experience. A friend of mine used to work in security and they were never short of volunteers to work Christmas Day for an enhanced rate of pay. Boxing Day seems pretty much like a normal Sunday nowadays. It might feel like that to you, but it does not for everyone. Let people enjoy a little break over Xmas. Imagine many need it after the 2 years we would have just had. Think the view that others should foresake their Xmas for the sake of fulfilling the needs of those who are not working is incredibly selfish. Why are they not working when they don't want to do Xmassy thing over Xmas? These should be the very people working, not complaining!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 4:52:45 GMT
It's funny how were talking about Christmas now, it's more than 3 months away!
The problem is that businesses start preparing for Christmas way too early, it's as if when the summer holidays are over its suddenly Christmas and then the TV adverts start from early November
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Post by greenboy on Sept 14, 2021 6:03:05 GMT
A friend of mine used to work in security and they were never short of volunteers to work Christmas Day for an enhanced rate of pay. Boxing Day seems pretty much like a normal Sunday nowadays. It might feel like that to you, but it does not for everyone. Let people enjoy a little break over Xmas. Imagine many need it after the 2 years we would have just had. Think the view that others should foresake their Xmas for the sake of fulfilling the needs of those who are not working is incredibly selfish. Why are they not working when they don't want to do Xmassy thing over Xmas? These should be the very people working, not complaining! Well it all comes down to supply and demand, if nobody wanted to go shopping Boxing Day then obviously nothing would be open. The same arguments were made about Sunday trading years ago but it's very much the norm nowadays. There seems to be this idyllic notion of everyone sitting at home playing happy families but for many people the reality is quite different and Boxing Day is probably the worst day of the year for domestic violence incidents as the stress of it all becomes too much for some people.
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