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Post by WH241 on Dec 30, 2021 17:28:34 GMT
Another lockdown is out of the question, most of the population are vaccinated, we can’t keep going in and out of lockdown because of a new variant, Omnicron hasn’t created the apocalypse people thought it would, 2022 should be about returning to normal, after all the hypocrisy from the government I doubt another lockdown would be realistically enforced. Time to focus on mental health, other ailments and help out smaller businesses and keeping jobs safe again. Can we please stop throwing mental health around like its a new thing. I have had my own fair share of anxiety over the years but feel mental is a new in word that's bounced about a bit too freely.
Both mental health and the pandemic are as important as each other its not one or the other. O and as for businesses if the infection gets out of control even more places won't have staff and won't be able to operate but hey the government wants business as normal as long as we spend spend spend.
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Post by route53 on Dec 30, 2021 17:50:55 GMT
Another lockdown is out of the question, most of the population are vaccinated, we can’t keep going in and out of lockdown because of a new variant, Omnicron hasn’t created the apocalypse people thought it would, 2022 should be about returning to normal, after all the hypocrisy from the government I doubt another lockdown would be realistically enforced. Time to focus on mental health, other ailments and help out smaller businesses and keeping jobs safe again. Can we please stop throwing mental health around like its a new thing. I have had my own fair share of anxiety over the years but feel mental is a new in word that's bounced about a bit too freely.
Both mental health and the pandemic are as important as each other its not one or the other. O and as for businesses if the infection gets out of control even more places won't have staff and won't be able to operate but hey the government wants business as normal as long as we spend spend spend.
No I won’t stop raising mental health issues, just because it doesn’t suit your point of view, I’m sorry but it’s been brushed under the carpet again since 2020 after a couple of years before 2020 mental health was finally being spoken about, we shouldn’t slip backwards just because people don’t like it, how will that help a teenager whose depressed and alone? Covid has taken a role in attitudes toward mental health going backwards. Covid will be here forever there is no reason to keep going into lockdowns, If we have more lockdowns there will be a huge rise in unemployment and the NHS will suffer, is that what you want? What do you think will happen if we have another year or two of lockdowns? Do you really think the high street and small businesses will still be around? Or that the NHS will still be ours and not some American billionaire’s for them to cut up and destroy the NHS? |
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Post by southlondon413 on Dec 30, 2021 17:53:19 GMT
Another lockdown is out of the question, most of the population are vaccinated, we can’t keep going in and out of lockdown because of a new variant, Omnicron hasn’t created the apocalypse people thought it would, 2022 should be about returning to normal, after all the hypocrisy from the government I doubt another lockdown would be realistically enforced. Time to focus on mental health, other ailments and help out smaller businesses and keeping jobs safe again. Can we please stop throwing mental health around like its a new thing. I have had my own fair share of anxiety over the years but feel mental is a new in word that's bounced about a bit too freely.
Both mental health and the pandemic are as important as each other its not one or the other. O and as for businesses if the infection gets out of control even more places won't have staff and won't be able to operate but hey the government wants business as normal as long as we spend spend spend.
Mental health is a hot button issue and for many they will be experiencing depression, anxiety and other types of mental health disorders for the first time like BPD or PTSD. My depression reared it’s ugly head again for the first time in years, luckily my GP recommended mindfulness apps, other solutions and my employer was able to reduce my workload to help me cope better without reducing my hours but for others it won’t be as simple. So now is the time to talk about the after affects of the pandemic on overall health, both in the adult and child population. We are already in danger of having an entire generation of young children who are not only scholastically stunted but emotionally, physically, mentally stunted and they will need support in the future. As for businesses, particularly small businesses, I think they would rather be open and trading even with minimal staff than being forced to close again for what is by all accounts a variant that is yes causing disruption but not major hospitalisations or even deaths. |
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Post by WH241 on Dec 30, 2021 18:15:55 GMT
Southern have cancelled all trains to London Victoria until January 10 because of staff shortages.
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Post by route53 on Dec 30, 2021 18:15:59 GMT
Children born in 2015/16 and after won’t ever know a normal childhood with normal developments their entire schooling has been marked by this, I teach reception aged children and there is a stark difference in their development and that of children born in 2010/2011.
And even children who turn 11 in 2020 ahead of secondary school will have had their teen years effected by this, hence why the topic of mental health must never be brushed under the carpet ever again.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 30, 2021 18:25:50 GMT
Children born in 2015/16 and after won’t ever know a normal childhood with normal developments their entire schooling has been marked by this, I teach reception aged children and there is a stark difference in their development and that of children born in 2010/2011. And even children who turn 11 in 2020 ahead of secondary school will have had their teen years effected by this, hence why the topic of mental health must never be brushed under the carpet ever again. It's not a case of brushing it under the carpet, it's more so a case of finding a balance between that and physical health. |
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Post by route53 on Dec 30, 2021 18:55:33 GMT
Children born in 2015/16 and after won’t ever know a normal childhood with normal developments their entire schooling has been marked by this, I teach reception aged children and there is a stark difference in their development and that of children born in 2010/2011. And even children who turn 11 in 2020 ahead of secondary school will have had their teen years effected by this, hence why the topic of mental health must never be brushed under the carpet ever again. It's not a case of brushing it under the carpet, it's more so a case of finding a balance between that and physical health. We managed before Covid I’m sure we can manage again |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 30, 2021 19:17:21 GMT
It's not a case of brushing it under the carpet, it's more so a case of finding a balance between that and physical health. We managed before Covid I’m sure we can manage again However before Covid there wasn’t er, well, Covid . |
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 30, 2021 19:32:47 GMT
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Post by route53 on Dec 30, 2021 19:43:20 GMT
We managed before Covid I’m sure we can manage again However before Covid there wasn’t er, well, Covid . Really?? Never knew that! But there were other health ailments before Covid and we managed to deal with that and mental health in the few years before Covid. Covid isn’t be all and end all and the topic of mental health should be the conversation again |
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Post by galwhv69 on Dec 30, 2021 19:44:03 GMT
The engineering works were scheduled beforehand, until the 3rd. However staff shortages mean no services restarting after the 3rd |
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Post by WH241 on Dec 30, 2021 20:10:53 GMT
However before Covid there wasn’t er, well, Covid . Really?? Never knew that! But there were other health ailments before Covid and we managed to deal with that and mental health in the few years before Covid. Covid isn’t be all and end all and the topic of mental health should be the conversation again And so should other things such as opening up GP surgeries, routine cancelled operations, screening for conditions. To a certain extent mental health services such as counselling are more suited to telephone / video calls more so that say speaking to doctors where physical symptoms can be missed.
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Post by ronnie on Dec 30, 2021 23:32:39 GMT
It really depends on the GP surgery. At mine there is a procedure in place to get a face to face appointment, you can either ring and book a telephone appointment first or use the app Doctor Link to determine if you need a face to face. I used the app recently, it determined I needed to see a GP within 1-2 days, I spoke to him briefly on the phone and I saw him face to face the next day. Of course my GP surgery is part of a large care centre that has an MRI machine, blood test facilities and a huge clinical team. It's the same procedure for me but it's incredibly unhelpful and time consuming. Before, all you had to do was ring to book an appointment and that's it - now, you have to go through a rigmarole of calling them at 8am, waiting for a call back which they don't always do meaning your whole day is essentially wasted and then when they do call back, your not even guaranteed to see them face to face because they want to you to diagnose everything over the phone which really isn't in the best interests of getting to the problem. I fully agree and it’s been a big bugbear of late and highly irritating. I can travel overseas to almost any country (with RT-PCR tests), socialise in pubs, travel using public transport, be to A&Es, fly on full flights, be to restaurants, go shopping - yet my GP is morbidly scared to see me and will only speak to me over the phone Try calling at either 8 or 12 - the phone never connects because everyone is trying to call. Have to wait 1-1.5 hours before the line even connects and at times the line gets disconnected after one is #1 in the queue. Then the long wait till someone calls (and they will invariably call when one is in the middle of an office call!). If you can’t pick up then god help you in reconnecting. I once got frustrated and asked the receptionist why I can’t get an in-person appointment; reply was “we havnt received a government directive yet” ….. I mean the doctors / nurses in hospitals are all seeing patients in person so I simply can’t fathom why they can’t do in GP surgeries where most people they would be seeing are local! One of the reasons why NHS / A&E is under strain is because the GP system has effectively collapsed |
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 31, 2021 3:48:57 GMT
It's the same procedure for me but it's incredibly unhelpful and time consuming. Before, all you had to do was ring to book an appointment and that's it - now, you have to go through a rigmarole of calling them at 8am, waiting for a call back which they don't always do meaning your whole day is essentially wasted and then when they do call back, your not even guaranteed to see them face to face because they want to you to diagnose everything over the phone which really isn't in the best interests of getting to the problem. I fully agree and it’s been a big bugbear of late and highly irritating. I can travel overseas to almost any country (with RT-PCR tests), socialise in pubs, travel using public transport, be to A&Es, fly on full flights, be to restaurants, go shopping - yet my GP is morbidly scared to see me and will only speak to me over the phone Try calling at either 8 or 12 - the phone never connects because everyone is trying to call. Have to wait 1-1.5 hours before the line even connects and at times the line gets disconnected after one is #1 in the queue. Then the long wait till someone calls (and they will invariably call when one is in the middle of an office call!). If you can’t pick up then god help you in reconnecting. I once got frustrated and asked the receptionist why I can’t get an in-person appointment; reply was “we havnt received a government directive yet” ….. I mean the doctors / nurses in hospitals are all seeing patients in person so I simply can’t fathom why they can’t do in GP surgeries where most people they would be seeing are local! One of the reasons why NHS / A&E is under strain is because the GP system has effectively collapsed The GP system collapsed years ago  Still, they make a packet, having transformed themselves into "Covid Heroes" with "Jabathons" with queues of willing punters snaking down the road... yes I knew there's an irony of my catching Covid in said queue, but with my local GP, I don't even bother anymore. I use an online GP in King's Cross, all dealt with within a day, including prescription. I think that's the way to go, as most GPs have as much free seats as a 318 EN on the 243... no capacity whatsoever after being overwhelmed by every freeloader going. I was shocked by the COVID Track and Trace team who suggested that I could apply for benefits off the back of my illness (they make the questionnaire just as soul destroying as applying for JSA or benefits)... probably why in our area you will see Audi Q8's with blue badges (unless everyone is borrowing their Nan's one) It is strange that my GP is more than willing to stick a syringe in my arm, but not talk to me face to face for the same amount of time  |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 1, 2022 13:50:33 GMT
Another lockdown is out of the question, most of the population are vaccinated, we can’t keep going in and out of lockdown because of a new variant, Omnicron hasn’t created the apocalypse people thought it would, 2022 should be about returning to normal, after all the hypocrisy from the government I doubt another lockdown would be realistically enforced. Time to focus on mental health, other ailments and help out smaller businesses and keeping jobs safe again. I agree about the lockdown. it is now starting to look stupid. I would not even bother with it anymore. What is the point in taking all these vaccines etc to still keep shutting down. End of the day the virus is not going away and is with us for the foreseeable future whether we like it or not. Omnicron is causing less fatalities compared to the previous variants and I really cannot see what the big fuss is all about. There are more people now off work due to the lateral flow tests which were not readily available a year ago. People now use them and if test positive isolate, even if nothing is wrong or no symptoms. |
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Still, they make a packet, having transformed themselves into "Covid Heroes" with "Jabathons" with queues of willing punters snaking down the road... yes I knew there's an irony of my catching Covid in said queue, but with my local GP, I don't even bother anymore. I use an online GP in King's Cross, all dealt with within a day, including prescription. 
