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Post by cl54 on Nov 1, 2021 19:59:07 GMT
Need to get out and photo the leased G3's on the 160 and MMC's on the 180 soon .................... so much happening at the moment 180 will have a part hybrid allocation and knowing PDs allocations anything will appear I don't think that works with PD's contracts now. The 161 is almost always recent hybrids. It is likely the 180 will be the same. The 3 The days of any bus will do at PD are on routes like the 96 and 472.
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Post by bus12451 on Nov 2, 2021 10:06:41 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 2, 2021 11:40:00 GMT
These are in addition to the BYD/ADL Enviro200EV that are operating delegate shuttles (which will go into normal service in Glasgow after the Conference) and at least two BYD/ADL Enviro400EV that are at the Conference for display purposes, one is a National Express West Midlands example that entered service last year. McGill's is also joining the party by operating local routes 23, 26 and 38 with its new Yutong E12s.
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Post by snowman on Nov 2, 2021 12:36:32 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 2, 2021 13:17:24 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones I'm sure ADL, TfL and Stagecoach have some sort of arrangement to allow the vehicles to be used for COP26. Its not as if ADL are using them whilst managers at Stagecoach is looking out of the window, taping their watches like they're waiting for a Hermes parcel that's been 8 stops away for hours
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Post by vjaska on Nov 2, 2021 14:36:47 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't Stagecoach used new buses on shuttle services in the past before they enter service with their respective part of Stagecoach - Brands Hatch or Cheltenham event for example?
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 2, 2021 15:28:11 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't Stagecoach used new buses on shuttle services in the past before they enter service with their respective part of Stagecoach - Brands Hatch or Cheltenham event for example? Yes they have. I believe some of WH's new MMC's back in 2018 entered service on the Silverstone shuttle.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 2, 2021 17:37:46 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't Stagecoach used new buses on shuttle services in the past before they enter service with their respective part of Stagecoach - Brands Hatch or Cheltenham event for example? Stagecoach have also used brand new Volvo B6s and Volvo B10Ms on London services before they were delivered to provincial companies. If we take the literal meaning of "brand new" then no bus that enters service is "brand new" because it would have been driven for delivery and bums would have been on seats before it entered service
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 2, 2021 18:51:30 GMT
So Stagecoach London will be getting used buses, not brand new ones Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't Stagecoach used new buses on shuttle services in the past before they enter service with their respective part of Stagecoach - Brands Hatch or Cheltenham event for example? Go Ahead as well, such as the Metrobus EH's on the Wimbledon Tennis shuttles
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 3, 2021 0:34:05 GMT
Yes, the square in the centre of the rear window on both types. I was never entirely sure how useful it was. I can see why it was used on Ts with the small window but there didn't seeem to be much point to it on B20s. It's making my head spin just thinking about it! You weren’t the only one mesmerised by it - I enjoyed it on the T’s as a kid I remember them on various buses in the 80s' Leyland Nationals, Bristol VRT's etc. When you look at it from the drivers cab mirror it does make a difference. Looking at it head on it looks strange. Although these are no way as good as reverse camera's.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 3, 2021 0:36:42 GMT
This reminds me, as a small child I got my hands on an LT publication (probably from a visit to the LT Museum) that had a big feature on this shiny new bus garage. I remember thinking that Plumstead must be a pretty special area to get such a fancy bus garage... Obviously my first visit to the area quickly put paid to that idea. I still like the garage though. There were virtually no bus garages opened in mid and late1960s and 1970s, It was of course a time of bus fleet reductions. Something must have changed in late 1970s because there was a mini-flurry of replacing some old cramped sites, either redeveloping sites, or consolidating small difficult sites. Got new locations at Plumstead, Ash Grove, Westbourne Park etc, (and was start of 1980s by time they were built and opened), Chadwell Heath was one that didn’t make it The Chadwell Heath [CH] was this not in the 90's though.
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Post by WH241 on Nov 3, 2021 9:14:52 GMT
There were virtually no bus garages opened in mid and late1960s and 1970s, It was of course a time of bus fleet reductions. Something must have changed in late 1970s because there was a mini-flurry of replacing some old cramped sites, either redeveloping sites, or consolidating small difficult sites. Got new locations at Plumstead, Ash Grove, Westbourne Park etc, (and was start of 1980s by time they were built and opened), Chadwell Heath was one that didn’t make it The Chadwell Heath [CH] was this not in the 90's though. Always wondered why buses adopted the CH garage code so early before the garage was even built. I always remember being so curious to the CH code on the 147 Titans! This was around 1993 before the Internet was mainstream or I had things like TLB to find out such information.
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Post by cl54 on Nov 3, 2021 9:18:54 GMT
The Chadwell Heath [CH] was this not in the 90's though. Always wondered why buses adopted the CH garage code so early before the garage was even built. I always remember being so curious to the CH code on the 147 Titans! This was around 1993 before the Internet was mainstream or I had things like TLB to find out such information. It wouldn't have taken long to build. It would have been open air parking with minimal buildings on the site.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 3, 2021 9:48:25 GMT
Always wondered why buses adopted the CH garage code so early before the garage was even built. I always remember being so curious to the CH code on the 147 Titans! This was around 1993 before the Internet was mainstream or I had things like TLB to find out such information. It wouldn't have taken long to build. It would have been open air parking with minimal buildings on the site. I recall the plan being abandoned because the site was contaminated. The new CH would have replaced BK and NS and would have been a "supergarage", accommodating around 250 vehicles. Had it been built RM would probably never have seen the light of day.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 3, 2021 10:35:26 GMT
The Chadwell Heath [CH] was this not in the 90's though. Always wondered why buses adopted the CH garage code so early before the garage was even built. I always remember being so curious to the CH code on the 147 Titans! This was around 1993 before the Internet was mainstream or I had things like TLB to find out such information. I remember that, it seemed foolishly premature and then wondered why the 86 was [CH] and never ever saw them go into Barking garage which was also [CH]. Just looking at the 147 history at londonbuses.co.uk/_routes/current/147.html it appears when [AP] closed in 1993 Ilford changes the Sunday allocation went to [BK] then in the late 1993 Newham changes when [WH] closed the 147 went to [BK] o Mon-Sat I remember then a lot of 147's and 150's running light for crew changes to [BK] from Ilford. A pic on the website of T564 confirms that the [CH] code stayed still after privitisation. I think it went back to [BK] and [NS] codes in 1996
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