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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Feb 4, 2022 18:00:17 GMT
What buses will be used for the hybrid part? It would be 10 Enviro 400 Hybrids from 12324-326/336-338/342-364 batches as the hybrid allocation part of the 180. 22387/8/93, 12433/4/5 and 11035-8 also make regular appearances. I'm guessing other hybrids are not fitted with blinds for the 180.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Feb 4, 2022 18:07:11 GMT
It would be 10 Enviro 400 Hybrids from 12324-326/336-338/342-364 batches as the hybrid allocation part of the 180. 22387/8/93, 12433/4/5 and 11035-8 also make regular appearances. I'm guessing other hybrids are not fitted with blinds for the 180. Do 2xxxx codes not denote longer SD's like the 25/227's erstwhile Mercedes buses, or electric SD's like on the 323?
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Post by cl54 on Feb 4, 2022 19:18:21 GMT
22387/8/93, 12433/4/5 and 11035-8 also make regular appearances. I'm guessing other hybrids are not fitted with blinds for the 180. Do 2xxxx codes not denote longer SD's like the 25/227's erstwhile Mercedes buses, or electric SD's like on the 323? There are no single deckers at PD so 22387/8/93 must be wrong.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Feb 4, 2022 19:26:54 GMT
22387/8/93, 12433/4/5 and 11035-8 also make regular appearances. I'm guessing other hybrids are not fitted with blinds for the 180. Do 2xxxx codes not denote longer SD's like the 25/227's erstwhile Mercedes buses, or electric SD's like on the 323? Most probably a typo. We know what they mean
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Post by WH241 on Feb 4, 2022 20:19:14 GMT
Lost track with the 180 does it's PVR drop to become a fully electric route once the Elizabeth Line changes take place? or will it still need hybrid top ups?
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Post by bus12451 on Feb 4, 2022 20:41:49 GMT
Lost track with the 180 does it PVR drop to become a fully electric route once the Elizabeth Line changes take place? or will it still need hybrid top ups? The PVR should only be dropping to 17 (-1) AFAIK, so it will still need a part hybrid allocation. The frequency will remain unchanged and the route length will be similar to what it currently is.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Feb 5, 2022 17:20:37 GMT
Lost track with the 180 does it's PVR drop to become a fully electric route once the Elizabeth Line changes take place? or will it still need hybrid top ups? I've got a feeling that some of the Elizabeth line changes will fall victim to TfL's fiscal crisis. I really can't see the 180 Erith extension happening,
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 5, 2022 17:27:53 GMT
Lost track with the 180 does it's PVR drop to become a fully electric route once the Elizabeth Line changes take place? or will it still need hybrid top ups? I've got a feeling that some of the Elizabeth line changes will fall victim to TfL's fiscal crisis. I really can't see the 180 Erith extension happening, The 129 180 469 472 & B11 changes will be happening at some point this year.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Feb 5, 2022 17:37:56 GMT
I've got a feeling that some of the Elizabeth line changes will fall victim to TfL's fiscal crisis. I really can't see the 180 Erith extension happening, The 129 180 469 472 & B11 changes will be happening at some point this year. Would that be inside knowledge?
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Post by WH241 on Feb 5, 2022 17:40:49 GMT
The 129 180 469 472 & B11 changes will be happening at some point this year. Would that be inside knowledge? Not really! The Elizabeth Line is in the final stages of testing so likely to be open by the Summer so the associated bus changes will take place. Over in east London the 304 bus stand has bus tiles on the Custom House stand in advance of the service starting.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Feb 5, 2022 17:43:14 GMT
Would that be inside knowledge? Not really! The Elizabeth Line is in the final stages of testing so likely to be open by the Summer so the associated bus changes will take place. Over in east London the 304 bus stand has bus tiles on the stop in advance of the service starting. Indeed. But my point is there was no financial crisis at the time the changes were planned.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 5, 2022 18:12:35 GMT
Not really! The Elizabeth Line is in the final stages of testing so likely to be open by the Summer so the associated bus changes will take place. Over in east London the 304 bus stand has bus tiles on the stop in advance of the service starting. Indeed. But my point is there was no financial crisis at the time the changes were planned. Unless TfL completely folded the Elizabeth Line is now too far gone to be called off, not to mention a lot of the bus changes actually seem to save money as opposed to use money up.
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 5, 2022 18:26:34 GMT
Indeed. But my point is there was no financial crisis at the time the changes were planned. Unless TfL completely folded the Elizabeth Line is now too far gone to be called off, not to mention a lot of the bus changes actually seem to save money as opposed to use money up. Even if TfL folded I’d imagine the DfT would step in and assume control of the whole line and not just the outer sections beyond the core.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Feb 5, 2022 18:26:37 GMT
Indeed. But my point is there was no financial crisis at the time the changes were planned. Unless TfL completely folded the Elizabeth Line is now too far gone to be called off, not to mention a lot of the bus changes actually seem to save money as opposed to use money up. For the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't suggesting the Elizabeth line would be scrapped, just some of the associated bus improvements.
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 5, 2022 18:49:57 GMT
The 129 180 469 472 & B11 changes will be happening at some point this year. Would that be inside knowledge? There was never any source to state it was not happening as usual time passes and people dream of things inside there head... Not really! The Elizabeth Line is in the final stages of testing so likely to be open by the Summer so the associated bus changes will take place. Over in east London the 304 bus stand has bus tiles on the stop in advance of the service starting. Indeed. But my point is there was no financial crisis at the time the changes were planned. Does not mean it requires speculation the 168 & 271 are already proposed for withdrawal. What is that telling you, why would TFL abandon plans to those changes knowing the Crossrail will be starting soon.
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