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Post by COBO on Jun 22, 2024 13:38:13 GMT
I’ve got mixed feelings about these.
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 22, 2024 14:13:40 GMT
The front roof and window looks weird,would take some getting used to. Oh no I actually like that curved almost dome shaped roof, I think it looks brilliant, and maybe an all over red at the bottom would look a bit better too
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 22, 2024 14:35:51 GMT
Not sure I really like that ...
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Post by garagesupervisor on Jun 22, 2024 14:51:48 GMT
They should have either left the volvo or put stagecoach logo in the grill area.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 22, 2024 14:52:36 GMT
Can't wait to go on it but it does look a little odd
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Post by DE20106 on Jun 22, 2024 15:26:26 GMT
Can't wait to go on it but it does look a little odd It’s certainly a marmite vehicle, unsurprising really when it’s such a bold and ‘avant-garde’ design
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Post by 15002 on Jun 22, 2024 19:14:22 GMT
Can't wait to go on it but it does look a little odd It’s certainly a marmite vehicle, unsurprising really when it’s such a bold and ‘avant-garde’ design Think I concur with you when it comes to the design being great, hope we get many more to come for future tenders!
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Post by WH241 on Jun 22, 2024 19:21:24 GMT
Logos are being phased out from the front and rear of buses.
See page 119 of the PDF.
Well I thought that was an option? I mean the 276's BZLs still received them and so did the Electroliners with all the companies. I am not sure I assume companies might have misinterpreted the rules and perhaps the rules will be enforced further down the line as more new buses are delivered.
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Post by cl54 on Jun 22, 2024 20:01:09 GMT
They should have either left the volvo or put stagecoach logo in the grill area. The rules about company logos not being allowed on the front or back of buses for TfL service are very clear.
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Post by garagesupervisor on Jun 22, 2024 20:59:27 GMT
They should have either left the volvo or put stagecoach logo in the grill area. The rules about company logos not being allowed on the front or back of buses for TfL service are very clear. Yes but looking at that document they've put the side operator logo in the wrong place and it's not allowed colour either.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 22, 2024 21:25:55 GMT
The rules about company logos not being allowed on the front or back of buses for TfL service are very clear. Yes but looking at that document they've put the side operator logo in the wrong place and it's not allowed colour either. I believe the full white note only refers to LTs. I can’t see any specific mention of colours further down the document but in practice most operators just opt for full white now. Even Go Ahead have dropped their yellow in their most recent logo. This is from November 2023, presumably contracts awarded, vehicles ordered and refurbishments completed before this latest spec don’t need to adhere to it. There will likely a tranche number it is valid from. As for the logo placement my guess would be they are in the right location. The logos for MVB1 are in exactly the same place and TfL haven’t yet published their specifications for the double decker version of the BZL, only the single decker.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 22, 2024 21:29:31 GMT
They should have either left the volvo or put stagecoach logo in the grill area. The rules about company logos not being allowed on the front or back of buses for TfL service are very clear. Yet is clearly not being implemented or enforced by TfL.
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Post by garagesupervisor on Jun 22, 2024 22:05:57 GMT
Yes but looking at that document they've put the side operator logo in the wrong place and it's not allowed colour either. I believe the full white note only refers to LTs. I can’t see any specific mention of colours further down the document but in practice most operators just opt for full white now. Even Go Ahead have dropped their yellow in their most recent logo. This is from November 2023, presumably contracts awarded, vehicles ordered and refurbishments completed before this latest spec don’t need to adhere to it. There will likely a tranche number it is valid from. As for the logo placement my guess would be they are in the right location. The logos for MVB1 are in exactly the same place and TfL haven’t yet published their specifications for the double decker version of the BZL, only the single decker. I did think that but if you look NBFL specific items are annotated as such. Also every bus on that document has white operator logos shown.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 22, 2024 22:12:57 GMT
I believe the full white note only refers to LTs. I can’t see any specific mention of colours further down the document but in practice most operators just opt for full white now. Even Go Ahead have dropped their yellow in their most recent logo. This is from November 2023, presumably contracts awarded, vehicles ordered and refurbishments completed before this latest spec don’t need to adhere to it. There will likely a tranche number it is valid from. As for the logo placement my guess would be they are in the right location. The logos for MVB1 are in exactly the same place and TfL haven’t yet published their specifications for the double decker version of the BZL, only the single decker. I did think that but if you look NBFL specific items are annotated as such. Also every bus on that document has white operator logos shown. True but the only specific reference to white logos appears in the NRM section and nowhere else despite white logos being shown in every diagram used. We already know the NRM required white logos whilst standard fleet didn’t and it doesn’t appear to have changed.
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Post by Dad91 on Jun 23, 2024 0:04:12 GMT
Well I thought that was an option? I mean the 276's BZLs still received them and so did the Electroliners with all the companies. I am not sure I assume companies might have misinterpreted the rules and perhaps the rules will be enforced further down the line as more new buses are delivered. New BZL would suit 25 or 86 can't wait what buses 257 247 169 getting bet on Electroliner for 169 247 BZL for 257
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