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Post by vjaska on Jun 26, 2024 13:17:50 GMT
Started on Sunday night - Brixton Road is being resurfaced in the town centre with the usual diversions in place as a result. The only routes avoiding Brixton completely is the 3 which is running via Camberwell Green & 45 running via Herne Hill with most routes serving the Town Hall and then running via Clapham Common & Stockwell. The 109, 118, 250 & 432 are terminating in their usual temporary spot at St Matthews Estate, 355 standing on the P4 stand and 133's & 159 are curtailed to Brixton and not running further south (unusual when diversions are on as they usual continue running their full route) I noticed this yesterday too. 133 & 159 terminating at Brixton. What is the reason for this because a lot of people were waiting for buses to Streatham outside Lambeth Town Hall. A lot of people were stranded and was left all for the 59 to deal with. My bus completely filled up at St Matthews Church at around midnight and I saw many 2s & 415s full because the 432 was starting from Brixton Water Lane. The road is being re-surfaced by the Police Station but I'm really baffled why some of the usual protocols have been amended. 133's & 159's usually remain doing full route during Brixton diversions and P4 usually carry on to Brixton carrying passengers but using Electric Lane stops instead - the diversion signs that are up still indicate the P4 to run right into Brixton as well. The 3 normally runs through Brixton on diversion but is completely missing it out which probably explains the busy 415's. I'm also baffled why a temporary route was set up for the first time ever - usually, we don't ever have one and TBH, I don't see the need for it. |
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Post by adl on Jun 26, 2024 16:33:28 GMT
Hoping they stick with Electroliners at NS for the 247. The ones on the 86 are great.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 26, 2024 17:14:41 GMT
Hoping they stick with Electroliners at NS for the 247. The ones on the 86 are great. Hopefully. I love the Electroliners on the 86, although some of the drivers do pull away from stops like they're driving a Ferrari. Not travelled on a BZL decker yet, but the Electroliners will take some beating |
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Post by adl on Jun 26, 2024 18:48:26 GMT
Hoping they stick with Electroliners at NS for the 247. The ones on the 86 are great. Hopefully. I love the Electroliners on the 86, although some of the drivers do pull away from stops like they're driving a Ferrari. Not travelled on a BZL decker yet, but the Electroliners will take some beating Should the 247 get Electroliners Romford Station will see a majority Gemini 3 type instead of the current E400 type being the majority as the 247, 86 would be Electroliners and the 66, 103, 370 and 175 using Gemini 3s leaving the E400 mix down to just 128 (NS), 365, 252 and 496 (RM) and with the upcoming tender of the 365, 296, 496, 252, if they are all retained it’ll be interesting to see if Electroliners are ordered for them with RM I think it’ll either be Electroliners are sticking with the E400 City of course I could be completely wrong and it could be BZLs or a new type but I would personally love to see more E400 City’s or Electroliners from a selfish view I like a standardised fleet. |
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Post by yunus on Jun 26, 2024 19:02:30 GMT
Hopefully. I love the Electroliners on the 86, although some of the drivers do pull away from stops like they're driving a Ferrari. Not travelled on a BZL decker yet, but the Electroliners will take some beating Should the 247 get Electroliners Romford Station will see a majority Gemini 3 type instead of the current E400 type being the majority as the 247, 86 would be Electroliners and the 66, 103, 370 and 175 using Gemini 3s leaving the E400 mix down to just 128 (NS), 365, 252 and 496 (RM) and with the upcoming tender of the 365, 296, 496, 252, if they are all retained it’ll be interesting to see if Electroliners are ordered for them with RM I think it’ll either be Electroliners are sticking with the E400 City of course I could be completely wrong and it could be BZLs or a new type but I would personally love to see more E400 City’s or Electroliners from a selfish view I like a standardised fleet. Could the RM routes be retained with existing? |
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Post by adl on Jun 26, 2024 19:06:11 GMT
On the topic on RM, all of their routes are up for tender this year apart from the 346 unless they get contract extensions, it could mean that RM is fully electric apart from the 346, the 165 does have compliant diesel single deckers however should be noted the 165 has received new vehicles every tender since 2008:
2008 - New 58-reg E200s (First)
2013 - New 13-reg E200s (Stagecoach)
2018 - New 68-reg E200 MMCs (Stagecoach)
I do hope they’ll make the 165 a double decker route on tender as a lot of the times I board it’s rammed a bit like the 256 before it was converted to DD operation.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jun 26, 2024 19:11:49 GMT
Should the 247 get Electroliners Romford Station will see a majority Gemini 3 type instead of the current E400 type being the majority as the 247, 86 would be Electroliners and the 66, 103, 370 and 175 using Gemini 3s leaving the E400 mix down to just 128 (NS), 365, 252 and 496 (RM) and with the upcoming tender of the 365, 296, 496, 252, if they are all retained it’ll be interesting to see if Electroliners are ordered for them with RM I think it’ll either be Electroliners are sticking with the E400 City of course I could be completely wrong and it could be BZLs or a new type but I would personally love to see more E400 City’s or Electroliners from a selfish view I like a standardised fleet. Could the RM routes be retained with existing? No, apart from the 165 they'll be too old by then. |
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Post by vxm on Jun 26, 2024 19:17:53 GMT
12408 has transferred from WH to PD and seen on 53
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Post by df on Jun 26, 2024 21:12:38 GMT
I saw 19827 pull into Catford garage. Last seen in service a month ago on 86.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jun 27, 2024 14:50:53 GMT
So which hybrids then? Everyone has been saying that some of the MMCs from the 277 would complete the hybrid allocation for the 97. Maybe they can use the few mk1 E400H from PD, prior to the 422 tender result, since they’re similar type to the E400s at LI? Or what about any spare Volvo B5LH E400MMCs? Chassis are more important than body types from what I've heard when it comes to engineering, so keeping the garage all B5LH/Streetdeck would probably be what andyc means. |
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Post by ! ALEED on Jun 27, 2024 16:26:43 GMT
Maybe they can use the few mk1 E400H from PD, prior to the 422 tender result, since they’re similar type to the E400s at LI? Or what about any spare Volvo B5LH E400MMCs? Chassis are more important than body types from what I've heard when it comes to engineering, so keeping the garage all B5LH/Streetdeck would probably be what andyc means. That could work, and the spare 277 E40Hs could move over to Catford or Plumstead where they can make up for the vehicles lost. |
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Post by sam97 on Jun 27, 2024 16:54:18 GMT
Maybe they can use the few mk1 E400H from PD, prior to the 422 tender result, since they’re similar type to the E400s at LI? Or what about any spare Volvo B5LH E400MMCs? Chassis are more important than body types from what I've heard when it comes to engineering, so keeping the garage all B5LH/Streetdeck would probably be what andyc means. That makes sense. Edit: I saw that one E400H MMC transferred from WH to PD so that could be the case |
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Post by andyc on Jun 27, 2024 17:09:02 GMT
Maybe they can use the few mk1 E400H from PD, prior to the 422 tender result, since they’re similar type to the E400s at LI? Or what about any spare Volvo B5LH E400MMCs? Chassis are more important than body types from what I've heard when it comes to engineering, so keeping the garage all B5LH/Streetdeck would probably be what andyc means. Could be  |
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 27, 2024 17:24:30 GMT
Or what about any spare Volvo B5LH E400MMCs? Chassis are more important than body types from what I've heard when it comes to engineering, so keeping the garage all B5LH/Streetdeck would probably be what andyc means. That could work, and the spare 277 E40Hs could move over to Catford or Plumstead where they can make up for the vehicles lost. Plumstead already have 3 spare B5LHs (ex-47) |
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Post by andyc on Jun 27, 2024 19:04:22 GMT
That could work, and the spare 277 E40Hs could move over to Catford or Plumstead where they can make up for the vehicles lost. Plumstead already have 3 spare B5LHs (ex-47) They are not spare - they are (currently) part of the 53 contract |
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