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Post by WH241 on Aug 16, 2024 12:03:25 GMT
Stagecoach actually have a lot of single deckers to source; W12/W13/W14 changes mean around 5 extra buses will be needed. (5 Bused) 314 PVR increase, the route requires 1 extra bus. (1 Bus) 284 increase - 36665 has been moved from RM. (1 Bus) W9 final allocation, I’d imagine a lot of the shorter E200s are going to be needed for the W changes and the route is not operating a full timetable yet. (9 Buses) 310 needs an allocation. (9 Buses) That’s around 25 single deckers to source. Well 24 because the 284s bus has been sorted. Is there any SDs increases I’ve missed? I hope the W12 is having a whole new fleet of existing buses, the existing Solos are not going to work for the new extend route they are too small. |
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Post by va59 on Aug 16, 2024 12:53:53 GMT
Stagecoach actually have a lot of single deckers to source; W12/W13/W14 changes mean around 5 extra buses will be needed. (5 Bused) 314 PVR increase, the route requires 1 extra bus. (1 Bus) 284 increase - 36665 has been moved from RM. (1 Bus) W9 final allocation, I’d imagine a lot of the shorter E200s are going to be needed for the W changes and the route is not operating a full timetable yet. (9 Buses) 310 needs an allocation. (9 Buses) That’s around 25 single deckers to source. Well 24 because the 284s bus has been sorted. Is there any SDs increases I’ve missed? I hope the W12 is having a whole new fleet of existing buses, the existing Solos are not going to work for the new extend route they are too small. If you imagine years ago the 206 used to go from Chigwell Station to Walthamstow Central, removing the Chigwell Station to Woodford Bridge section (which was sparsely used anyway), the W12 pretty much replicates the old 206 give or take. And the 206 used Leyland Nationals and were always at least 3/4 full throughout the route. Surely then, no one in their right mind can think that Solo's are even remotely capable of handling large volumes of passengers. |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 16, 2024 12:59:44 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes!
19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route.
Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over?
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Post by va59 on Aug 16, 2024 13:04:13 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? I always thought there were height restrictions |
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Post by abellion on Aug 16, 2024 13:11:40 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? I always thought there were height restrictions E57 was on the 549 one day in early 2022 I think |
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Post by DW221 on Aug 16, 2024 13:12:57 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? that was a login at about 1am, 19792 is currently on the 252… |
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Post by RM1_Enthusiast on Aug 16, 2024 13:13:10 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? Checked LvF and 19792 is actually on the 252 rn! So yh, I don’t think it’s true! |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 16, 2024 13:18:19 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? Checked LvF and 19792 is actually on the 252 rn! So yh, I don’t think it’s true! Ha o well my mistake! Sorry for the false alarm 😁 |
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Post by DW221 on Aug 16, 2024 13:22:58 GMT
The contract states EVs so I assume it was planned that enough would be available with the nightbus and for the morning run out. If this annoys you so much go complain to TfL or Stagecoach.
For someone so pro diesel you get very worked up when the buses you like so much are being used! I would much rather a full / near 100% run out on a busy day route over 5 or 6 buses at night on the N86. When NS has more electrics a full night run out will be easier as there will be a large spare pool of buses. The run out at the moment could be affected by parking as well when the garage is full.
I agree with all this, i think youve said this previously but as he being pro diesel (i am as well tbf) he just contradicts himself all the time complaining that diesels are being used it doesnt make sense to me 😂😂 At the end of the day it defo matters more that EVs are focused on the 86 itself! |
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Post by adl on Aug 16, 2024 13:36:47 GMT
More of the 242s batch have entered service on the 86. 82054 currently on route.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 16, 2024 14:12:16 GMT
I hope the W12 is having a whole new fleet of existing buses, the existing Solos are not going to work for the new extend route they are too small. If you imagine years ago the 206 used to go from Chigwell Station to Walthamstow Central, removing the Chigwell Station to Woodford Bridge section (which was sparsely used anyway), the W12 pretty much replicates the old 206 give or take. And the 206 used Leyland Nationals and were always at least 3/4 full throughout the route. Surely then, no one in their right mind can think that Solo's are even remotely capable of handling large volumes of passengers. I agree that 21-seat Solos would not be suitable for the extended W12, which is taking over much of the current W14. Be careful about making disdainful/sneery comparisons with years ago, though. Travel patterns change over time, there are more routes in outer London these days and many routes run more frequently than they once did. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 16, 2024 14:17:42 GMT
Thanks to Silence tipping off that ex Sullivan routes are tracking on Bustimes! 19792 is out on the 549! This is a very rare working! Sullivan Buses put one out not long after taking over the route. Not sure if any other E400s have been out since Stagecoach took the route back over? I always thought there were height restrictions The 549 is fully cleared for deckers - Central Line replacement services in the past have run following the entire 549 using double deckers. |
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 16, 2024 16:26:26 GMT
I always thought there were height restrictions The 549 is fully cleared for deckers - Central Line replacement services in the past have run following the entire 549 using double deckers. Yes, it's the 167 that is restricted due to a low bridge at Loughton Station - the 549 avoids this as it takes a different route between Buckhurst Hill and Loughton (as does the 677). |
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Post by exbox on Aug 16, 2024 16:46:23 GMT
Another night, not a single EV on the N86! Something must be seriously wrong... Sometimes in busy garages you have to take what's available. It might be that the EVs are blocked in. It might be that a diesel bus broke down on the run in and buses had to be parked differently to the usual plan. It might have broken down in front of the chargers meaning that the EVs were charged two hours late and it was marginal if they could do a full night on the N86. It could be a shortage of shunting staff meaning that the EVs weren't put on charge in time, or someone forgot or went sick. It might be that the N86 is covered by rest day working because the normal drivers are on holiday and the overtime drivers aren't type trained. The drivers could have been loaned from other garages. Maybe the EVs have warranty work needed which is best done at night. They could have door problems or iBus or ETM issues. Maybe they are behind with their inspections and if they don't do them at night there won't be enough buses for the runout in the morning. Are the EVs leased? Is there a mileage limitation? Are they trying to keep vehicle mileages roughly equal? Maybe there's been some vandalism and their expensive EVs are coming back graffitied or worse - maybe they are sending out older buses on certain workings until the yobs are dealt with? I remember working at a garage where we sent all the old crates out at night because we had a big vandalism problem. In short there could be a million reasons, and a million more that I haven't thought of. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Aug 16, 2024 17:31:06 GMT
[b Got to say Bromley garage turn out their buses very nicely. Always very clean and tidy when I see them. They certainly do, and I certainly agree with the post above that the 314 buses don’t look 12 years old. I also love the classic E400s on the 61 and 261 They do have some naff E200s though, but that’s to do with E200s being naff buses in general rather than TB’s fault. When I did the 246 I had 36571. Paul who is a member on here, and I believe is a TB driver, told me 36571 is absolutely awful and hates driving it 😂 I hope with its new contract they can give the 314 a frequency boost on Sundays. A miserable 2bph is totally inadequate and every time I’m in the Bromley area on Sundays and see the 314 it is absolutely RAMMED You will be happy to know that the frequency of route 314 on Sundays will increase from x30mins to x20mins from 31st August. |
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