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Post by BK15AZR on Aug 16, 2024 20:13:22 GMT
Stagecoach actually have a lot of single deckers to source; W12/W13/W14 changes mean around 5 extra buses will be needed. (5 Bused) 314 PVR increase, the route requires 1 extra bus. (1 Bus) 284 increase - 36665 has been moved from RM. (1 Bus) W9 final allocation, I’d imagine a lot of the shorter E200s are going to be needed for the W changes and the route is not operating a full timetable yet. (9 Buses) 310 needs an allocation. (9 Buses) That’s around 25 single deckers to source. Well 24 because the 284s bus has been sorted. Is there any SDs increases I’ve missed? 339 released about 12-13 9.3 and 9.6m single deckers. W19 is going to release a couple I believe to tuse the 10.2m single deckers too temporarily W14 is going to release about 7-8 buses. There may be some spares from the 366 or D3 that haven't been withdrawn yet. W12 already has existing buses on it if they decide not to withdraw them, which in my opinion they should. The 310 might reportedly get single deckers from the D6 or 165, or the 296 so that one of them can be double decked. I think Stagecoach have the situation under control! 5 buses can be sourced from the 339/W19 314 can get 36292 from HK, it is a spare not allocated to the D6. W9 can get a mix of buses from the 339/W19 310 can get buses from the 165, D6 or 296. I believe WH also still has 36298 as a technical spare for the 323 but is rarely used, so may well be released as well. |
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Post by atb123 on Aug 16, 2024 22:51:40 GMT
 Nice to see T adding blinds in advance for the 20, 616 and 657, will be interesting to see if they allocate EHs on 657, given its a 3 yr contract. Another interesting point being the 26 too being added on the blinds. |
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Post by Leccy86Hybrid on Aug 16, 2024 23:46:24 GMT
I’m sure Yunus wil be happy as there’s at least 2 electrics on N86 tonight with 1 being 82054  |
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Post by exbox on Aug 17, 2024 3:02:12 GMT
I’m sure Yunus wil be happy as there’s at least 2 electrics on N86 tonight with 1 being 82054 Only two though. Something must be seriously wrong! |
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Post by MKAY315 on Aug 17, 2024 4:17:46 GMT
I forgot to add I was on the 58 a few days ago with it's BZLs. They look lovely on the route. Quick question though are MCV still building their buses from Egypt and transporting it into the UK?
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Post by DW221 on Aug 17, 2024 5:50:16 GMT
The former W5 optare solos have now been reinstated with 47983, 47985 & 47988 starting off the W9 this morning!!
nice to see them back in London service on which will probably be their last route.
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Post by dace2 on Aug 17, 2024 6:50:47 GMT
I forgot to add I was on the 58 a few days ago with it's BZLs. They look lovely on the route. Quick question though are MCV still building their buses from Egypt and transporting it into the UK? Mo Salah would be delighted to build buses at Egypt😁 |
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Post by MKAY315 on Aug 17, 2024 8:03:22 GMT
I forgot to add I was on the 58 a few days ago with it's BZLs. They look lovely on the route. Quick question though are MCV still building their buses from Egypt and transporting it into the UK? Mo Salah would be delighted to build buses at Egypt😁 😂😂 |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 17, 2024 8:44:46 GMT
I neve realised the W9 was using ex route W5 Solos. Good to see the former Sullivan routes tracking again on LVF.
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 17, 2024 9:14:52 GMT
The former W5 optare solos have now been reinstated with 47983, 47985 & 47988 starting off the W9 this morning!! nice to see them back in London service on which will probably be their last route. This should help with all the other SDs needed over the next month or so. Presumably the ex-339 E200s will all go to the W12, therefore fewer 10.2m need to go on the W19, and so more available for the 310 etc. While some sort of DD conversion may still happen, it may not be necessary to release all the E200s needed. I also wonder if more withdrawn buses could return to service in addition to the Solos, such as the 59/11reg E200s that had been on the 276? |
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Post by DW221 on Aug 17, 2024 9:23:38 GMT
The former W5 optare solos have now been reinstated with 47983, 47985 & 47988 starting off the W9 this morning!! nice to see them back in London service on which will probably be their last route. This should help with all the other SDs needed over the next month or so. Presumably the ex-339 E200s will all go to the W12, therefore fewer 10.2m need to go on the W19, and so more available for the 310 etc. While some sort of DD conversion may still happen, it may not be necessary to release all the E200s needed. I also wonder if more withdrawn buses could return to service in addition to the Solos, such as the 59/11reg E200s that had been on the 276? yeah i gathered it was worth it getting the solos back since there will be very few spare enviros about. Theres still about 4 LX59s at LI in storage, however all the spare LX11s have went to AW on the W19 to see off a couple YX11s. All time will tell |
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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 17, 2024 12:25:16 GMT
The number of Evosetis on the 135 has been increasing every day lately, there are currently 6 Evosetis on it, when there are usually 2-3.
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Post by DE20106 on Aug 17, 2024 13:09:44 GMT
View AttachmentNice to see T adding blinds in advance for the 20, 616 and 657, will be interesting to see if they allocate EHs on 657, given its a 3 yr contract. Another interesting point being the 26 too being added on the blinds. I hope they’re doing the vice Versa with the 20’s buses ahead of its transfer to T. They’d look great on the 55, 56, 257, 275 and tbh just about every other route in London 😂 |
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Post by va59 on Aug 17, 2024 14:25:40 GMT
If you imagine years ago the 206 used to go from Chigwell Station to Walthamstow Central, removing the Chigwell Station to Woodford Bridge section (which was sparsely used anyway), the W12 pretty much replicates the old 206 give or take. And the 206 used Leyland Nationals and were always at least 3/4 full throughout the route. Surely then, no one in their right mind can think that Solo's are even remotely capable of handling large volumes of passengers. I agree that 21-seat Solos would not be suitable for the extended W12, which is taking over much of the current W14. Be careful about making disdainful/sneery comparisons with years ago, though. Travel patterns change over time, there are more routes in outer London these days and many routes run more frequently than they once did. Okay let me bring it bang up to date then, a Solo will (albeit temporary) will not be able to cope with loadings on the newly extended W14 (W12). Even with buses the existing W14 uses, it remains pretty throughout. I'm assuming Stagecoach have already planned to use longer buses anyway. |
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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 17, 2024 14:27:46 GMT
I agree that 21-seat Solos would not be suitable for the extended W12, which is taking over much of the current W14. Be careful about making disdainful/sneery comparisons with years ago, though. Travel patterns change over time, there are more routes in outer London these days and many routes run more frequently than they once did. Okay let me bring it bang up to date then, a Solo will (albeit temporary) will not be able to cope with loadings on the newly extended W14 (W12). Even with buses the existing W14 uses, it remains pretty throughout. I'm assuming Stagecoach have already planned to use longer buses anyway. Yes, but I am still wondering why they went with 8.5m buses but I guess we are going to see how busy the new W12 gets. Most of the withdrawn section of the W14 in the busy areas is being replaced the W13 I think so, it should be okay. I also think it's safe to assume that the new W14 and W13 will get BZLs as the W13 BZL DD has been confirmed by andyc, and it makes sense given they can take the length and could allow the 276 to intermix between the batches at LI! |
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