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Post by DE20106 on Sept 1, 2024 14:44:23 GMT
I would mind - the 250 in my area is known as the 2-50 by locals and non locals to the point I’ve never heard anyone call it 2-5-0. I agree with you that there shouldn’t be this anomaly and it should be 3-10. I certainly hope they don’t change other routes I think personally all the anomalies for ibus over the years are just silly and inconsistent… Why call it 3-1-0… It doesnt sound right and its just out of place especially being a new route. Would be better if it was the same as the route its mirroring, the 210 of course The 250 example is a good one, for example everyone around Hornchurch Romford Ockendon etc knows the 370 as 3-70. Same thing if they suddenly changed that to 3-7-0 out of the blue It’s because it’s ingrained in English colloquialism. When we’re not talking about numbers in a quantitative form, it’s customary to just say the digits for ease of speech, rather than for example ‘four hundred and seventy three’, ‘4-7-3’ is far easier to say, as is lumping together the last two digits of a number in speech when the last number is a 0. But you wouldn’t then say ‘there are 4-7-3 millilitres in an American pint’, only when a number represents something, rather than when it’s an actual quantity. I have quite a strong knowledge of the German language, and in their language you should always say the full numbers in speech, no matter what. There is a tram announcement in Cologne where it translates as change for the 136 and 146 bus, and it literally says ‘linie ein hundert sechs und dreißig und ein hundert sechs und vierzig’, very very long winded. No linguistic laziness in Germany!!🤣 |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 1, 2024 14:57:15 GMT
I think personally all the anomalies for ibus over the years are just silly and inconsistent… Why call it 3-1-0… It doesnt sound right and its just out of place especially being a new route. Would be better if it was the same as the route its mirroring, the 210 of course The 250 example is a good one, for example everyone around Hornchurch Romford Ockendon etc knows the 370 as 3-70. Same thing if they suddenly changed that to 3-7-0 out of the blue It’s because it’s ingrained in English colloquialism. When we’re not talking about numbers in a quantitative form, it’s customary to just say the digits for ease of speech, rather than for example ‘four hundred and seventy three’, ‘4-7-3’ is far easier to say, as is lumping together the last two digits of a number in speech when the last number is a 0. But you wouldn’t then say ‘there are 4-7-3 millilitres in an American pint’, only when a number represents something, rather than when it’s an actual quantity. I have quite a strong knowledge of the German language, and in their language you should always say the full numbers in speech, no matter what. There is a tram announcement in Cologne where it translates as change for the 136 and 146 bus, and it literally says ‘linie ein hundert sechs und dreißig und ein hundert sechs und vierzig’, very very long winded. No linguistic laziness in Germany!!🤣 In German they also say the unit number before the decimal number - so in your example, it translates literally as "one hundred six and thirty (136) and one hundred six and forty (146)". Imagine the hoo-hah on this forum if TfL started doing that! |
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 1, 2024 15:01:59 GMT
I wonder what ibus2 will entail, will it mean Emma’s voice is made redundant with new announcements replaced with AI?😂 iBus 2 better keep her voice. AI will just be basic and it won't br unique in my opinion. Some of these Robot Voices on You tube videos are annoying… |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 1, 2024 15:03:36 GMT
Meanwhile, here is a photo of 37537 (YX68 UMM) on the drei-hundert-zehn (nicht meins): flic.kr/p/2qdvrAQ |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 1, 2024 15:19:04 GMT
I think personally all the anomalies for ibus over the years are just silly and inconsistent… Why call it 3-1-0… It doesnt sound right and its just out of place especially being a new route. Would be better if it was the same as the route its mirroring, the 210 of course The 250 example is a good one, for example everyone around Hornchurch Romford Ockendon etc knows the 370 as 3-70. Same thing if they suddenly changed that to 3-7-0 out of the blue It’s because it’s ingrained in English colloquialism. When we’re not talking about numbers in a quantitative form, it’s customary to just say the digits for ease of speech, rather than for example ‘four hundred and seventy three’, ‘4-7-3’ is far easier to say, as is lumping together the last two digits of a number in speech when the last number is a 0. But you wouldn’t then say ‘there are 4-7-3 millilitres in an American pint’, only when a number represents something, rather than when it’s an actual quantity. I have quite a strong knowledge of the German language, and in their language you should always say the full numbers in speech, no matter what. There is a tram announcement in Cologne where it translates as change for the 136 and 146 bus, and it literally says ‘linie ein hundert sechs und dreißig und ein hundert sechs und vierzig’, very very long winded. No linguistic laziness in Germany!!🤣 But then we should not be saying the letter O to represent the number zero. For me if it is not going to be 2-50, it should be 2-5-zero. That is another English colloquialism. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 1, 2024 15:59:32 GMT
While we are into foreign languages, here is something in Italian that many of you have noticed.
Vengo qui quasi ogni Sabato!
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Post by adl on Sept 1, 2024 20:51:48 GMT
I tell ya what 19730 on the 496 is an absolute rocker, I don’t think the speed limiter is working because when I say this driver was going for it, LVF couldn’t even keep up with where it was, reminds me of when a good trident was on the Stagecoach routes. Went from Gallows Corner to Gidea Park in less than 2 minutes.
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Post by Leccy86Hybrid on Sept 1, 2024 21:09:26 GMT
I tell ya what 19730 on the 496 is an absolute rocker, I don’t think the speed limiter is working because when I say this driver was going for it, LVF couldn’t even keep up with where it was, reminds me of when a good trident was on the Stagecoach routes. Went from Gallows Corner to Gidea Park in less than 2 minutes. No e400’s are speed limited. Most are restricted although some aren’t (19823 and 19826). You could have found another unrestricted one however 😁 |
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Post by enviro498 on Sept 1, 2024 21:11:15 GMT
I tell ya what 19730 on the 496 is an absolute rocker, I don’t think the speed limiter is working because when I say this driver was going for it, LVF couldn’t even keep up with where it was, reminds me of when a good trident was on the Stagecoach routes. Went from Gallows Corner to Gidea Park in less than 2 minutes. None of the classic E400s at NS/RM have speed limiters. With the right driver they are very fast and climb hills well. On another note 84146 was struggling on the hills on the 174, moving very slowly up the inclines due to its weak motors. At one point the driver had to stop the bus rolling back from a stop. Do other batches of BYDs have buses with similar problems up hills? |
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Post by adl on Sept 1, 2024 21:11:59 GMT
I tell ya what 19730 on the 496 is an absolute rocker, I don’t think the speed limiter is working because when I say this driver was going for it, LVF couldn’t even keep up with where it was, reminds me of when a good trident was on the Stagecoach routes. Went from Gallows Corner to Gidea Park in less than 2 minutes. No e400’s are speed limited. Most are restricted although some aren’t (19823 and 19826). You could have found another unrestricted one however 😁 Definitely unrestricted, the 496 and 174 left Upper Brentwood Road at the same time both being E400s, the 496 arrived first despite having to serve Gidea Park first where the 174 takes a more direct route, I’ve rarely seen this happen, the driver had his foot down all the way to Romford then got regulated at Romford Station for 5 minutes  |
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Post by atb123 on Sept 1, 2024 21:52:09 GMT
You know what baffles me? The last Stagecoach route to potentially use Solos was a route that they were never destined to have, if W12 fully converts to e200s after the changes.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 2, 2024 1:22:58 GMT
It does make me laugh how some people seem to think the bus industry should operate with impunity and should never be held to account for anything. I don’t think anyone is suggesting otherwise, but running double deckers on a busy route (which started all this) is hardly “impunity”! There also tends to be a very high level of compliance with switching off engines at termini in my experience. We have a highly professional bus service in London that generally operates to good standards around health and safety, operational quality etc I beg to differ, I see it day in day out drivers not switching engines off whilst on stand. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 2, 2024 1:30:35 GMT
Hasn’t been mentioned yet but W9 will go to Metroline on 21st September Imo its quite sad Stagey wont be having the route long term, was nice seeing another route w them in Enfield and especially with the solos! Although they probably didnt even bid for the route in the first place anyways. Cant blame them though tbh, the route will just take up more space at HK when theyre likely more focused on 242/277/323/D7 electrification Stagey??? Sounds a bit silly. Reminds me of Spidey sense tingling  |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 2, 2024 2:03:21 GMT
Imo its quite sad Stagey wont be having the route long term, was nice seeing another route w them in Enfield and especially with the solos! Although they probably didnt even bid for the route in the first place anyways. Cant blame them though tbh, the route will just take up more space at HK when theyre likely more focused on 242/277/323/D7 electrification Stagey??? Sounds a bit silly. Reminds me of Spidey sense tingling "Stagey" is well known in the enthusiast community is another name for Stagecoach. It's not something I use but have heard many use it |
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Post by DW221 on Sept 2, 2024 5:59:45 GMT
Stagey??? Sounds a bit silly. Reminds me of Spidey sense tingling "Stagey" is well known in the enthusiast community is another name for Stagecoach. It's not something I use but have heard many use it Yes I love to use it all the time, easier to say and very rememberable  |
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