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Post by DW221 on Sept 2, 2024 6:04:54 GMT
You know what baffles me? The last Stagecoach route to potentially use Solos was a route that they were never destined to have, if W12 fully converts to e200s after the changes. The last Solo route in fact really should be the W9 given that its contract with Stagecoach ends about 2 weeks after the W route changes take place. 7th for W12/W13/W14 v the 21st for W9 |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 2, 2024 8:00:27 GMT
You know what baffles me? The last Stagecoach route to potentially use Solos was a route that they were never destined to have, if W12 fully converts to e200s after the changes. The last Solo route in fact really should be the W9 given that its contract with Stagecoach ends about 2 weeks after the W route changes take place. 7th for W12/W13/W14 v the 21st for W9 The W9 is a route that Stagecoach was DEFINITELY not destined to operate! Planty of Solos though in the non-London fleets, indeed batches of brand-new Solo SRs are currently entering service in several locations. |
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Post by va59 on Sept 2, 2024 9:15:57 GMT
Stagey??? Sounds a bit silly. Reminds me of Spidey sense tingling  "Stagey" is well known in the enthusiast community is another name for Stagecoach. It's not something I use but have heard many use it Very playground. |
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Post by exbox on Sept 2, 2024 9:37:53 GMT
I tell ya what 19730 on the 496 is an absolute rocker, I don’t think the speed limiter is working because when I say this driver was going for it, LVF couldn’t even keep up with where it was, reminds me of when a good trident was on the Stagecoach routes. Went from Gallows Corner to Gidea Park in less than 2 minutes. None of the classic E400s at NS/RM have speed limiters. With the right driver they are very fast and climb hills well. On another note 84146 was struggling on the hills on the 174, moving very slowly up the inclines due to its weak motors. At one point the driver had to stop the bus rolling back from a stop. Do other batches of BYDs have buses with similar problems up hills? All EVs, in fact all modern buses have their acceleration software limited. Otherwise passengers would be propelled down the saloon and out of the rear window. |
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Post by TB123 on Sept 2, 2024 9:47:02 GMT
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Post by enviro498 on Sept 2, 2024 9:48:11 GMT
None of the classic E400s at NS/RM have speed limiters. With the right driver they are very fast and climb hills well. On another note 84146 was struggling on the hills on the 174, moving very slowly up the inclines due to its weak motors. At one point the driver had to stop the bus rolling back from a stop. Do other batches of BYDs have buses with similar problems up hills? All EVs, in fact all modern buses have their acceleration software limited. Otherwise passengers would be propelled down the saloon and out of the rear window. I understand that, but other vehicles of the same batch climb the hills with ease. This one was severely lacking power compared to others. |
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Post by VMH2537 on Sept 2, 2024 10:22:41 GMT
This is what happens when you draw 'crayons' on a random network. |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 2, 2024 10:28:55 GMT
Thats like the 110, and longer than the K5! After my 110 experience Saturday I’ll be giving this e2e a wide berth for the time being |
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Post by TB123 on Sept 2, 2024 10:33:54 GMT
This is what happens when you draw 'crayons' on a random network. Certainly it seems like an imperfect solution. Absolute beast of a route zig-zagging across a quite small area... I found similar to be the case with the 455/S4 changes - they cut back the 455 on account of being too long only to have a revised S4 nearly as long! Albeit with very generous running times.... |
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 2, 2024 10:37:32 GMT
This is what happens when you draw 'crayons' on a random network. The revised W12 just seems like two separate routes joined together, with very few passengers likely to make journeys in between the two (when more direct alternatives are available, like the 275 and SL2). I think they should have kept the W12 as an east-west route in some form, then separately restructure the 549/W13/W14 to cover the north-south links. Or at least if you are going to send the W12 to Woodford, it should go direct from Whipps Cross to South Woodford instead of serving Leytonstone. I also wonder if there is a need for both the W12 and W14 in the Woodford area. Perhaps one route could have gone direct from South Woodford to Woodford Bridge, double running back as far as Snakes Lane, then via Woodford Station to Buckhurst Hill. Then switching the 167/397 routeings north of here would avoid the need to send another TFL route across the border to Loughton. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 2, 2024 11:01:51 GMT
Yep, believe Stagecoach even referred to their poor inherited condition in a staff comm. Does anyone actually know what happened to LT131 - it hasnt seen service since Janurary with RATP - so is it still with them or being used for spares or smth? Well, no surprise when the other operator knew they were going. The same way they left the ex route 136 HV's to be run into the ground before they returned off lease. |
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 2, 2024 15:04:26 GMT
The 678 must be a route with the most variety in vehicle types in the whole of TFL?
Just by looking at a 6 month history on LVF the following have been seen: Volvo Gemini 2, Enviro 400, Enviro 400H, Volvo Gemini 3, Volvo Evoseti, Enviro 400MMC, StreetDeck diesel, StreetDeck electroliner, Volvo BZL.
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Post by abellion on Sept 2, 2024 15:23:49 GMT
The 678 must be a route with the most variety in vehicle types in the whole of TFL? Just by looking at a 6 month history on LVF the following have been seen: Volvo Gemini 2, Enviro 400, Enviro 400H, Volvo Gemini 3, Volvo Evoseti, Enviro 400MMC, StreetDeck diesel, StreetDeck electroliner, Volvo BZL. I’ve been wondering what route would take this title nowadays - The 57, 163, 164 and 355 were all contenders at some point recently but not anymore. The 57 has gone from one of the widest varieties to horrifically boring, the 163/164 are mostly single deck since SEe conversion and AL have lost two types lately (E and SOE). The 355 is still varied but I think C had more specific vehicle types than Q |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 2, 2024 15:49:50 GMT
The 678 must be a route with the most variety in vehicle types in the whole of TFL? Just by looking at a 6 month history on LVF the following have been seen: Volvo Gemini 2, Enviro 400, Enviro 400H, Volvo Gemini 3, Volvo Evoseti, Enviro 400MMC, StreetDeck diesel, StreetDeck electroliner, Volvo BZL. I’ve been wondering what route would take this title nowadays - The 57, 163, 164 and 355 were all contenders at some point recently but not anymore. The 57 has gone from one of the widest varieties to horrifically boring, the 163/164 are mostly single deck since SEe conversion and AL have lost two types lately (E and SOE). The 355 is still varied but I think C had more specific vehicle types than Q 131 and most Merton DD’s would all have been contenders thanks to their usual lackadaisical allocations |
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Post by lj61nwc on Sept 2, 2024 15:56:45 GMT
I’ve been wondering what route would take this title nowadays - The 57, 163, 164 and 355 were all contenders at some point recently but not anymore. The 57 has gone from one of the widest varieties to horrifically boring, the 163/164 are mostly single deck since SEe conversion and AL have lost two types lately (E and SOE). The 355 is still varied but I think C had more specific vehicle types than Q 131 and most Merton DD’s would all have been contenders thanks to their usual lackadaisical allocations 163 would've won as they used both deckers & single deckers and I don't think the EHVs ever went onto the 152 but they definitely strayed onto the 163 |
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