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Post by WH241 on Sept 10, 2024 21:41:11 GMT
There seems to be 3 8 variants with the closure of Bow Interchange: 8 8g 8s 8s is definitely a shuttle with 2 buses leavign the garage between 08:30 and 08:50 and both arriving back and finishing at BW at 18:00 and 18:10 If I find out anymore info I’ll post it here Are they staff shuttles? Noticed on TfL status the works at Bow are linked to the Silvertown Tunnel but assume they mean Blackwall Tunnel and probably linked to preparing for the toll charge. I assume the 25 , 205 and 425 are not affected in anyway.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 21:44:35 GMT
Following on from the discussion on the Metroline thread, I will need to confess that older buses are much more interesting. I do love the Hybrids on the 56 excluding the interior. My question is are the 56 & 205/other 2014 Hybrids not exactly the same? Seems to me they behave a tad different. Interestingly though, as buses age that’s when they become more interesting. Back in 2011 we probably saw the new 11-reg E400s as very plain and boring, now I definitely see them as having character. Riding them on the D7 I do see a lot of similarities between these and the old Tridents when they were the same age. Very similar engine noise with loud voiths as they age, slightly worn lazzerini beach ball seats, similarly shaped windows. We certainly didn’t see them as that when they were new. Ditto the 2014 E40Hs new to the 205 (tbf I’ve always like that particular batch of vehicles), they make these amazing whooshing noises now and absolutely fly. Also vehicles we probably thought were completely characterless when they came out: the 64-reg 109 MMCs! They’re certainly not anymore with the similar whooshing hybrid noises. And finally another set of vehicles I think have developed a lot of character: the 15-reg Volvo B5LH / ADL MMCs with Stagecoach and Go-Ahead (EHVs in GAL’s case). Now they’re rare they’re very popular buses in the enthusiast community I actually feel the same about this I cant lie, I remember I was sad when the ALX400s left the 247 in 2018-2019, and the E400s I saw as dull then took over.. But now I’ve grown to like them with all their character especially on a quick route like the 247 including the hillclimb at Hainualt Forest! 10131 is probably the fastest Enviro at NS Will certainly be a shame tbh when the 247 converts to electric
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 21:54:21 GMT
Yeah true every TFL bus is Euro 6 trapped nowadays, obviously the original different engine sounds etc though are basically the same since they were new If anyone knows do bus operators outside of London modify their buses to EuroVI? I may take a trip further into Surrey tomm. I know for a fact around Woking, Stagecoach have many pre 2014 buses. Good question! Some companies do but I’m certain most don’t haha
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Post by adl on Sept 10, 2024 21:56:40 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations.
I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174)
Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370.
Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128.
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Post by yunus on Sept 10, 2024 22:00:03 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations. I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174) Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370. Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128. From the RM routes I believe the 165 is the only that could continue with existing buses?
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Post by adl on Sept 10, 2024 22:03:04 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations. I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174) Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370. Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128. From the RM routes I believe the 165 is the only that could continue with existing buses? If the E200 MMCs do go back, I'm hoping TFL will open their eyes during the net few months to the fact the 165 need double deckers in which case no the 165 cannot continue with existing as they're 11-reg E400s. Notably the 193 is a big user of the 68 reg E200 MMCs at the moment with. couple appearing on the route quite recently daily, if the route can take 10.8m it would be good ton see the 193s capacity lifted as its a busy single deck route that cannot be decked.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 22:08:28 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations. I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174) Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370. Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128. All considering things, if 256, 365 & 496 get 2 year extensions to 2027 (which I think is likely) they would be the last with E40Ds in the area since 128’s contract will expire at the end of 2026. Wouldnt mind more electroliner orders though since theyre alright buses, they dont go too badly on the 86 or 247. Wouldnt be surprised though if Stagecoach do go to the new E400 EV considering their long history with ADL
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Post by DW221 on Sept 10, 2024 22:10:03 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations. I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174) Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370. Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128. From the RM routes I believe the 165 is the only that could continue with existing buses? Considering 165 probably should continue with DDs since it very much needs them, I would think those YX68s would be quite a good fit for a new contract on the 296? Especially since the 310 wont be staying with them! Time will tell
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Post by adl on Sept 11, 2024 10:45:36 GMT
On the topic of the 247, it’s funny how most routes in Romford & Rainham are currently E400 operated (247, 128, 165, 365, 252, 287, 256, 496) and route 66 from Arrivw (Soon) will all be replaced in the next year or so, with the 247 already awarded and fhe RM routes to be awarded, the GY routes converting to hybrid allocations. I really hope Stagecoach keep to the ADL type in Romford going from Tridents to E400s to MMCs to hopefully the new E400 EV for the NS/RM routes with appearances from the Electroliners (86) and BYD E400 City’s (174) Personally I’m hoping for ADL as I much prefer it to the other manufacturers I always feel their designs are far superior, if they decide upon Electroliners it’ll basically convert the whole of Romford bar a few routes to Gemini 3 operation as the 66 is expecting HVs in the long run which I imagine will likely be the same for the 175/103/370. Surprisingly should the RM routes become electric, the only Classic E400 contractually allocated E400s (Bar the school routes) will be the 128. All considering things, if 256, 365 & 496 get 2 year extensions to 2027 (which I think is likely) they would be the last with E40Ds in the area since 128’s contract will expire at the end of 2026. Wouldnt mind more electroliner orders though since theyre alright buses, they dont go too badly on the 86 or 247. Wouldnt be surprised though if Stagecoach do go to the new E400 EV considering their long history with ADL I don’t think it’s likely they’ll get an extension now, they are all due to be awarded in November, tender issued in July and returned in August and last month any extension would be agreed prior to tender issuing.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 11, 2024 14:02:27 GMT
All considering things, if 256, 365 & 496 get 2 year extensions to 2027 (which I think is likely) they would be the last with E40Ds in the area since 128’s contract will expire at the end of 2026. Wouldnt mind more electroliner orders though since theyre alright buses, they dont go too badly on the 86 or 247. Wouldnt be surprised though if Stagecoach do go to the new E400 EV considering their long history with ADL I don’t think it’s likely they’ll get an extension now, they are all due to be awarded in November, tender issued in July and returned in August and last month any extension would be agreed prior to tender issuing. Oh fair enough!
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Post by DW221 on Sept 11, 2024 14:04:49 GMT
Stagecoach must be very short of SD’s, two of the W12 batch solos (47915 & 919) transferred to HK for the W9s haha
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Post by mondraker275 on Sept 11, 2024 17:46:20 GMT
Finally had a 58 BZL with interior displays working and then spotted another so there may have been a fix recently. I did not even know that there was a small display at the exit doors for wheelchair users.
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 11, 2024 18:03:46 GMT
Finally had a 58 BZL with interior displays working and then spotted another so there may have been a fix recently. I did not even know that there was a small display at the exit doors for wheelchair users. Those displays will become more commonplace, as it will be a requirement to provide them on new buses in the near future.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 11, 2024 18:30:01 GMT
Finally had a 58 BZL with interior displays working and then spotted another so there may have been a fix recently. I did not even know that there was a small display at the exit doors for wheelchair users. Those displays will become more commonplace, as it will be a requirement to provide them on new buses in the near future. If only they were consistent with them. The ones on the 58s buses above the door are very poor compared to the ones on the rest of the bus.
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Post by LondonTransport_Central on Sept 11, 2024 21:36:13 GMT
11066 has been painted into the Selkent Diplomat Livery ready for the Bromley Open Day this weekend!
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