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Post by mondraker275 on Oct 14, 2024 7:40:22 GMT
Do Stagecoach EV's need to have a break or something on Sundays ? Notice on Sundays there are more Diesels/Hybrids out on EV routes , 173 always has a few see today the 86 has a Evoseti out on it and 323 usually has a real E200 running and the 174 is nearly full Diesel today ? Sundays does tend to have other buses out but maybe the very cold temperatures are a small factor. It has been mentioned that electrics dont perform as well in the cold, so a cold Sunday could influence that. Last Sunday was mild and most the electrics were out on the 174 but it seemed to be all diesel yesterday. On the weather just reading an article that it could be 20c this week, yet as I type it is absolutely pouring it down! |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 14, 2024 8:22:19 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. Attachments:
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Post by TB123 on Oct 14, 2024 8:25:45 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. Looking good. Hope to see this format adopted as standard |
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 14, 2024 8:35:29 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. Much better than the 111s. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 14, 2024 8:38:27 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. Looking good. Hope to see this format adopted as standard If it alternates with other information then yes, if not then Go Ahead's variation is probably the best. |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 14, 2024 8:55:50 GMT
Looking good. Hope to see this format adopted as standard If it alternates with other information then yes, if not then Go Ahead's variation is probably the best. I agree but overall I don’t understand why that style is not used for every Route with these LCD screens… |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 14, 2024 9:25:11 GMT
If it alternates with other information then yes, if not then Go Ahead's variation is probably the best. I agree but overall I don’t understand why that style is not used for every Route with these LCD screens… I believe it is spec'd by operators which is causing the discrepancy. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 14, 2024 9:41:53 GMT
If it alternates with other information then yes, if not then Go Ahead's variation is probably the best. I agree but overall I don’t understand why that style is not used for every Route with these LCD screens… I wish TfL would be much stricter with consistency on everything be it LCD screens, blinds, logos. I would rather they had a strong brand with the same interior, same consistency information presentation. Passengers should be able to board any bus and expect the same experience regardless of the operating company. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Oct 14, 2024 9:55:12 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. It's nice to see that the ibus is moving to a more train/tube style of notices on the board. My only question is if its stuck in traffic would it update live time or go by how the standard journey would take to get to the next stop. |
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Oct 14, 2024 12:21:44 GMT
The Screens on Route 199 are now showing more useful information never seen this before. They've been showing these for quite a while now. |
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 14, 2024 12:33:31 GMT
I agree but overall I don’t understand why that style is not used for every Route with these LCD screens… I wish TfL would be much stricter with consistency on everything be it LCD screens, blinds, logos. I would rather they had a strong brand with the same interior, same consistency information presentation. Passengers should be able to board any bus and expect the same experience regardless of the operating company. I agree with you but would stop short at the different interiors. I know that makes things consistent, but I say this purely for the reason there are some really nice designs of London interiors, which it’d be a shame to lose. Arriva, TUK, RATP, all have extremely nice interiors imo, and I wouldn’t want to see them go (GAL is mediocre and Metroline’s I unequivocally don’t like, it’s very dated now). Sticking with Stagecoach I really like the TfL interior they’ve gone for, but I wish they’d have stuck with the exact dark red and gold colour schemes on the ex-HCT buses. I have the same feelings about Manchester tbh as new buses come in with the new Bee Network design. It’s very smart but I’ll certainly miss the Stagecoach colours on the 192. Privatisation has been ingrained in London Buses for 40 years now so I think it’s fair the customer is reminded of the privatised system with different interiors. If all the separate interiors were crap though I’d deffo be saying get rid of them 😂 |
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Post by joefrombow on Oct 14, 2024 13:25:07 GMT
Do Stagecoach EV's need to have a break or something on Sundays ? Notice on Sundays there are more Diesels/Hybrids out on EV routes , 173 always has a few see today the 86 has a Evoseti out on it and 323 usually has a real E200 running and the 174 is nearly full Diesel today ? Sundays does tend to have other buses out but maybe the very cold temperatures are a small factor. It has been mentioned that electrics dont perform as well in the cold, so a cold Sunday could influence that. Last Sunday was mild and most the electrics were out on the 174 but it seemed to be all diesel yesterday. On the weather just reading an article that it could be 20c this week, yet as I type it is absolutely pouring it down! God help us when there are no Diesel's at all left then 😂 and everything is electric |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 14, 2024 13:27:19 GMT
I wish TfL would be much stricter with consistency on everything be it LCD screens, blinds, logos. I would rather they had a strong brand with the same interior, same consistency information presentation. Passengers should be able to board any bus and expect the same experience regardless of the operating company. I agree with you but would stop short at the different interiors. I know that makes things consistent, but I say this purely for the reason there are some really nice designs of London interiors, which it’d be a shame to lose. Arriva, TUK, RATP, all have extremely nice interiors imo, and I wouldn’t want to see them go (GAL is mediocre and Metroline’s I unequivocally don’t like, it’s very dated now). Sticking with Stagecoach I really like the TfL interior they’ve gone for, but I wish they’d have stuck with the exact dark red and gold colour schemes on the ex-HCT buses. I have the same feelings about Manchester tbh as new buses come in with the new Bee Network design. It’s very smart but I’ll certainly miss the Stagecoach colours on the 192. Privatisation has been ingrained in London Buses for 40 years now so I think it’s fair the customer is reminded of the privatised system with different interiors. If all the separate interiors were crap though I’d deffo be saying get rid of them 😂 Even if you keep the different interior colour styles, the interiors still need to be more consistent across the board. Take Arriva for example - the ES's come with woodern effect flooring whilst the refurbed HV's at N don't. Now extend it beyond Arriva - the Abellio Electroliners come with glass pillars whilst the WDE's, ES's and Stagecoach examples don't. This also extends to refurbs - HV's down here getting a proper refit whilst North London ones are receiving bog standard refurb just because of a different length of contract at play which creates yet more inconsistencies |
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 14, 2024 13:39:28 GMT
I agree with you but would stop short at the different interiors. I know that makes things consistent, but I say this purely for the reason there are some really nice designs of London interiors, which it’d be a shame to lose. Arriva, TUK, RATP, all have extremely nice interiors imo, and I wouldn’t want to see them go (GAL is mediocre and Metroline’s I unequivocally don’t like, it’s very dated now). Sticking with Stagecoach I really like the TfL interior they’ve gone for, but I wish they’d have stuck with the exact dark red and gold colour schemes on the ex-HCT buses. I have the same feelings about Manchester tbh as new buses come in with the new Bee Network design. It’s very smart but I’ll certainly miss the Stagecoach colours on the 192. Privatisation has been ingrained in London Buses for 40 years now so I think it’s fair the customer is reminded of the privatised system with different interiors. If all the separate interiors were crap though I’d deffo be saying get rid of them 😂 Even if you keep the different interior colour styles, the interiors still need to be more consistent across the board. Take Arriva for example - the ES's come with woodern effect flooring whilst the refurbed HV's at N don't. Now extend it beyond Arriva - the Abellio Electroliners come with glass pillars whilst the WDE's, ES's and Stagecoach examples don't. This also extends to refurbs - HV's down here getting a proper refit whilst North London ones are receiving bog standard refurb just because of a different length of contract at play which creates yet more inconsistencies Oh yes good point, certain things should be specified. Eg, wooden floor, standardised iBus screens, properly programmed screen blinds, high back seats for new vehicles (wouldn’t say they’re necessary for refurbs tbh), same exterior layout (like the extra glass on the Electroliners), TfL buses badge roundel on the front, but leave the colour choice and seat trims down to the operators  |
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 14, 2024 13:54:23 GMT
Even if you keep the different interior colour styles, the interiors still need to be more consistent across the board. Take Arriva for example - the ES's come with woodern effect flooring whilst the refurbed HV's at N don't. Now extend it beyond Arriva - the Abellio Electroliners come with glass pillars whilst the WDE's, ES's and Stagecoach examples don't. This also extends to refurbs - HV's down here getting a proper refit whilst North London ones are receiving bog standard refurb just because of a different length of contract at play which creates yet more inconsistencies Oh yes good point, certain things should be specified. Eg, wooden floor, standardised iBus screens, properly programmed screen blinds, high back seats for new vehicles (wouldn’t say they’re necessary for refurbs tbh), same exterior layout (like the extra glass on the Electroliners), TfL buses badge roundel on the front, but leave the colour choice and seat trims down to the operators If TfL were to go as far as to standardise everything else they may as well standardise interior colours and seat moquette. The operators should be secondary really to the TfL Buses brand. You can go all over Europe but you’d never know how many buses are privately operated for public bodies because they do an excellent job of standardising every minute detail. |
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