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Post by DT 11 on Oct 13, 2024 15:16:44 GMT
Saw an Evoseti on the 86 earlier today, checked on LVF turns out 3 of them are on the route. They look really good on the route. 58 also seems to be growing in terms of using BZLs from the D7/277! On another note, there are multiple garages to be electrified, but are there any in Stagecoach that after all tenders recently released still will not be seeing any electrics? I think KB is the only one? Now that all 3 of them came out of service with a flash. Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route… |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 13, 2024 15:20:36 GMT
Saw an Evoseti on the 86 earlier today, checked on LVF turns out 3 of them are on the route. They look really good on the route. 58 also seems to be growing in terms of using BZLs from the D7/277! On another note, there are multiple garages to be electrified, but are there any in Stagecoach that after all tenders recently released still will not be seeing any electrics? I think KB is the only one? Now that all 3 of them came out of service with a flash. Assuming LI have issues with having enough electrics or charging issues for the morning run out. On a related note the 58 seems to use two hybrids late in the evening which I assume is related to charging buses for the morning run out. |
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Post by atb123 on Oct 13, 2024 15:23:21 GMT
Now that all 3 of them came out of service with a flash. Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route…  |
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Post by busoccultation on Oct 13, 2024 15:25:58 GMT
Now that all 3 of them came out of service with a flash. Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route… LI could put in some signs over the windows that this bus is on hire to (Insert garage/operator) like LI did on the Scanias that was on loan from WH for the first few days of the 97 at LI. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 13, 2024 15:28:51 GMT
Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route… LI could put in some signs over the windows that this bus is on hire to (Insert garage/operator) like LI did on the Scanias that was on loan from WH for the first few days of the 97 at LI. What do LI do with the electrics on the 86 as the allocation swaps between NS and LI if I am not mistaken? Do they carry notices ? |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 13, 2024 15:32:28 GMT
LI could put in some signs over the windows that this bus is on hire to (Insert garage/operator) like LI did on the Scanias that was on loan from WH for the first few days of the 97 at LI. What do LI do with the electrics on the 86 as the allocation swaps between NS and LI if I am not mistaken? Do they carry notices ? LI is an operating centre for both East London and Lea Interchange. It only has small number of authorised discs on the former and these are what presumably are displayed on the Electroliners. |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 13, 2024 15:41:41 GMT
Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route… LI could put in some signs over the windows that this bus is on hire to (Insert garage/operator) like LI did on the Scanias that was on loan from WH for the first few days of the 97 at LI. They could do but involves replacing the Disc. When DT had T162 on loan in 2011 under ASC operating licences a Piece of Laminate was placed in the nearside window instead of replacing the legal lettering. Vehicle transfers between O Licences believe it or not even if it’s the same company need to be authorised… |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 13, 2024 16:15:30 GMT
Saw an Evoseti on the 86 earlier today, checked on LVF turns out 3 of them are on the route. They look really good on the route. 58 also seems to be growing in terms of using BZLs from the D7/277! On another note, there are multiple garages to be electrified, but are there any in Stagecoach that after all tenders recently released still will not be seeing any electrics? I think KB is the only one? Now that all 3 of them came out of service with a flash. No they didn't 13142 on at 6:45 and off at 13:53 which is around 7 hours 13146 on at 11:30 and off at 15:28 which is around 4 hours 13151 on at 7:33 and off at 14:35 which is around 7 hours Whatever happened would have been intentional, especially as this isn't the first time LI's own buses have been on the 86 either as it's happened at least twice before. Metroline have a few cases where Metroline Travel buses have Metroline West legals for example |
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 13, 2024 16:28:12 GMT
LI could put in some signs over the windows that this bus is on hire to (Insert garage/operator) like LI did on the Scanias that was on loan from WH for the first few days of the 97 at LI. They could do but involves replacing the Disc. When DT had T162 on loan in 2011 under ASC operating licences a Piece of Laminate was placed in the nearside window instead of replacing the legal lettering. Vehicle transfers between O Licences believe it or not even if it’s the same company need to be authorised… Wow never knew any of this, never thought anything of random LI vehicles going on the 86, thanks for the info 👍🏻 |
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Post by DW221 on Oct 13, 2024 18:47:41 GMT
Hardly shocking the 86 uses a different O’Licence to the rest of the routes so could potentially get fined so shouldn’t be on the route… My picture, got lucky to snap it before they all got subbed 😆 |
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Post by Dad91 on Oct 13, 2024 19:07:59 GMT
86 duty LI can someone explain why would they fine I know LI was ex first London and tower transit. |
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Post by DW221 on Oct 13, 2024 19:22:29 GMT
86 duty LI can someone explain why would they fine I know LI was ex first London and tower transit. Trying to say this in the nicest way possible but I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here… |
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Post by Dad91 on Oct 13, 2024 22:27:09 GMT
86 duty LI can someone explain why would they fine I know LI was ex first London and tower transit. Trying to say this in the nicest way possible but I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here… someone said LI have O licence 86 have have six duties running out LI |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 13, 2024 23:11:01 GMT
Trying to say this in the nicest way possible but I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here… someone said LI have O licence 86 have have six duties running out LI The 86 is a East London Bus and Coach Co. route, licence number (PK0001938). PK0001938 has a authorised allocation (O License) of 8 vehicles at LI. Vehicles displaying the O Licence should have the correct legal lettering for the company allocate the licence. These will be the outstationed Electroliners. All the other vehicles at LI have Lea Interchange Bus Company O license (PK2055831) and legal lettering, so should not operate on the 86, a East London Bus and Coach Co. route. Routes wholly within London are not registered with the Traffic Commissioner, so not sure how this would be governed though. Assume TFL have governance to ensure all legal requirements of routes in London are met? |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 14, 2024 7:32:13 GMT
someone said LI have O licence 86 have have six duties running out LI The 86 is a East London Bus and Coach Co. route, licence number (PK0001938). PK0001938 has a authorised allocation (O License) of 8 vehicles at LI. Vehicles displaying the O Licence should have the correct legal lettering for the company allocate the licence. These will be the outstationed Electroliners. All the other vehicles at LI have Lea Interchange Bus Company O license (PK2055831) and legal lettering, so should not operate on the 86, a East London Bus and Coach Co. route. Routes wholly within London are not registered with the Traffic Commissioner, so not sure how this would be governed though. Assume TFL have governance to ensure all legal requirements of routes in London are met? However isn't this right simply to store serviceable buses under that O License as opposed to operating them? There are plenty of buses across multiple operators with legal lettering for the wrong subsidiary, unless the address is the only part that needs to be correct. |
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