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Post by richard on Jun 21, 2022 2:02:59 GMT
Tube Strike extras would be running on route 29 again on Tuesday & Wednesday. This time it would be between Wood Green and Mornington Crescent. (There would not be any National Rail to link up at Finsbury Park this time) There would be two buses from [CT] and two buses from [AR] TuesdayDepartures from Wood Green first stop would be AM= 06:56, 07:07, 07:22, 07:41, 08:31, 08:51, 09:09, 09:27 PM= 13:33, 14:04, 14:22, 14:34, 15:40, 16:10, 16:26, 16:44 Departures from Mornington Crescent first stop would be AM= 07:38, 07:55, 08:13, 08:36, 09:26, 09:47, 10:03, 10:20 PM= 14:31, 15:01, 15:19, 15:31, 16:36, 17:06, 17:18, 17:36 WednesdayDepartures from Wood Green first stop would be AM= 06:56, 07:07, 07:22, 07:41, 08:31, 08:51, 09:09, 09:27 Departures from Mornington Crescent first stop would be AM= 07:38, 07:55, 08:13, 08:36, 09:26, 09:47, 10:03, 10:20 Will they be running LTs again? I'd emagin Ensign will be helping out?
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Post by TNA33379 on Jun 21, 2022 9:00:05 GMT
2 LT’s on the 2 as strike extra’s
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 21, 2022 9:26:46 GMT
Anyone know if there is a story behind HV23 .... which is marked as withdrawn on lvf? Would explain why HV57 was transferred in.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 21, 2022 9:27:41 GMT
Tube Strike extras would be running on route 29 again on Tuesday & Wednesday. This time it would be between Wood Green and Mornington Crescent. (There would not be any National Rail to link up at Finsbury Park this time) There would be two buses from [CT] and two buses from [AR] TuesdayDepartures from Wood Green first stop would be AM= 06:56, 07:07, 07:22, 07:41, 08:31, 08:51, 09:09, 09:27 PM= 13:33, 14:04, 14:22, 14:34, 15:40, 16:10, 16:26, 16:44 Departures from Mornington Crescent first stop would be AM= 07:38, 07:55, 08:13, 08:36, 09:26, 09:47, 10:03, 10:20 PM= 14:31, 15:01, 15:19, 15:31, 16:36, 17:06, 17:18, 17:36 WednesdayDepartures from Wood Green first stop would be AM= 06:56, 07:07, 07:22, 07:41, 08:31, 08:51, 09:09, 09:27 Departures from Mornington Crescent first stop would be AM= 07:38, 07:55, 08:13, 08:36, 09:26, 09:47, 10:03, 10:20 Will they be running LTs again? I'd emagin Ensign will be helping out? LT and HV. Ensign was not doing the 29 AFAIK, I think there may be other routes they are doing, but unsure of what.
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Post by greg on Jun 22, 2022 7:23:43 GMT
Will they be running LTs again? I'd emagin Ensign will be helping out? LT and HV. Ensign was not doing the 29 AFAIK, I think there may be other routes they are doing, but unsure of what. 25
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Post by Londontransport3 on Jun 23, 2022 11:08:38 GMT
Anyone know if there is a story behind HV23 .... which is marked as withdrawn on lvf? Would explain why HV57 was transferred in. It's Been stripped at GY Engine and gearbox removed
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 23, 2022 12:11:18 GMT
Anyone know if there is a story behind HV23 .... which is marked as withdrawn on lvf? Would explain why HV57 was transferred in. It's Been stripped at GY Engine and gearbox removed Many thanks. Are able to give an indication as to why this example was selected?
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 23, 2022 19:28:29 GMT
Believe DW553 is currently at Hants and Dorset Trim undergoing a refurbishment, which would be the first DW for the 466 to be refurbished
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 24, 2022 12:21:55 GMT
Believe DW553 is currently at Hants and Dorset Trim undergoing a refurbishment, which would be the first DW for the 466 to be refurbished Have a feeling DW547 might be the first.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 24, 2022 15:31:47 GMT
Hhhmmm, thought they might have been the batch for the 248. Arriva does not have that many spare in its fleet, unless 349 converts back to DW ex-264 to see its timeout. Any other options as struggling at the moment to come up with a solution. I suggested Arriva wouldn’t have enough spares but got told I was wrong so never bothered suggesting anything further re the 248. AE/CT 38 pvr 36 73 pvr 29 253 pvr 19 254 pvr 23 Total pvr 107 12% spare TVR 120 15% spare TVR 123 Allocation 187-88(2),203-230(28),237-8(2),327-356(30),495-500(6),517-542(26),813-44(32) Total 126 AR 19 pvr 21 149 pvr 29 Total pvr 50 12% spare TVR 56 15% spare TVR 58 Allocation 199-202(4),317-326(10),464-475(12),488-494(7),513-516(4),583-601(19) Total 56 BN/N 59 pvr 21 137 pvr 29 Total pvr 50 12% spare TVR 56 15% spare TVR 58 Allocation 476-77(2),716-744(29),954-983(30) Total 61 E 313 pvr 8 349 pvr 13 Total pvr 21 TVR 24 both 12 & 15% Allocation 1-7(7),176-185(10),191-198(8) Total 25 EC 259 pvr 16 Total pvr 16 12% spare TVR 18 15% spare TVR 19 Allocation 564-582(19) Total 19 According to these figures there are not enough Arriva LTs for the 248, unless more cuts are planned. 12-15% seems to be accepted margins. Not seen service in 2022, LT7,177,353,490,954 Not a lot has changed since I made this post on 8 March, except LT187 & 476 have moved to AR, which I had suggested was 2 short at the time. So spares are 2 at AE/CT, 2 at BN/N, and 1 at E .... so they have 5 spare which is not going to cover the 248. The unused list since 1April (about same timescale as before) is LT1,177,195,199,209,490,818,954. So of the 5 that were long term VOR, just 2, LT7 and 353 have returned to service, but the remaining 3 have been joined by 5 more long termers. So reality is allowing for long term VOR is E is 2 short, AR is 2 short, AE/CT is spot on and BN/N has 1 spare.
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 24, 2022 16:03:11 GMT
Saw HV177 being towed returning from a refurb
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Post by vjaska on Jun 24, 2022 16:42:30 GMT
I suggested Arriva wouldn’t have enough spares but got told I was wrong so never bothered suggesting anything further re the 248. AE/CT 38 pvr 36 73 pvr 29 253 pvr 19 254 pvr 23 Total pvr 107 12% spare TVR 120 15% spare TVR 123 Allocation 187-88(2),203-230(28),237-8(2),327-356(30),495-500(6),517-542(26),813-44(32) Total 126 AR 19 pvr 21 149 pvr 29 Total pvr 50 12% spare TVR 56 15% spare TVR 58 Allocation 199-202(4),317-326(10),464-475(12),488-494(7),513-516(4),583-601(19) Total 56 BN/N 59 pvr 21 137 pvr 29 Total pvr 50 12% spare TVR 56 15% spare TVR 58 Allocation 476-77(2),716-744(29),954-983(30) Total 61 E 313 pvr 8 349 pvr 13 Total pvr 21 TVR 24 both 12 & 15% Allocation 1-7(7),176-185(10),191-198(8) Total 25 EC 259 pvr 16 Total pvr 16 12% spare TVR 18 15% spare TVR 19 Allocation 564-582(19) Total 19 According to these figures there are not enough Arriva LTs for the 248, unless more cuts are planned. 12-15% seems to be accepted margins. Not seen service in 2022, LT7,177,353,490,954 Not a lot has changed since I made this post on 8 March, except LT187 & 476 have moved to AR, which I had suggested was 2 short at the time. So spares are 2 at AE/CT, 2 at BN/N, and 1 at E .... so they have 5 spare which is not going to cover the 248. The unused list since 1April (about same timescale as before) is LT1,177,195,199,209,490,818,954. So of the 5 that were long term VOR, just 2, LT7 and 353 have returned to service, but the remaining 3 have been joined by 5 more long termers. So reality is allowing for long term VOR is E is 2 short, AR is 2 short, AE/CT is spot on and BN/N has 1 spare. Removing the VOR's, it adds up to 13 - given the 248 starts in September, plenty of time for Arriva to return most/all of these to service before then. Most LT routes do operate on a standard spares margin bar some examples.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 24, 2022 16:46:35 GMT
Not a lot has changed since I made this post on 8 March, except LT187 & 476 have moved to AR, which I had suggested was 2 short at the time. So spares are 2 at AE/CT, 2 at BN/N, and 1 at E .... so they have 5 spare which is not going to cover the 248. The unused list since 1April (about same timescale as before) is LT1,177,195,199,209,490,818,954. So of the 5 that were long term VOR, just 2, LT7 and 353 have returned to service, but the remaining 3 have been joined by 5 more long termers. So reality is allowing for long term VOR is E is 2 short, AR is 2 short, AE/CT is spot on and BN/N has 1 spare. Removing the VOR's, it adds up to 13 - given the 248 starts in September, plenty of time for Arriva to return most/all of these to service before then. Most LT routes do operate on a standard spares margin bar some examples. But the allocation includes those VORs. You can not just remove them as they will be under strength. If all the long term VORs returned to service, there would be just 5 spares. You already get many conventional deckers covering for LTs, mainly at E and AR which are the 2 I have identified as being short of LTs. The VORs at these garages would just replace the covering conventional deckers.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 24, 2022 22:00:55 GMT
Removing the VOR's, it adds up to 13 - given the 248 starts in September, plenty of time for Arriva to return most/all of these to service before then. Most LT routes do operate on a standard spares margin bar some examples. But the allocation includes those VORs. You can not just remove them as they will be under strength. If all the long term VORs returned to service, there would be just 5 spares. You already get many conventional deckers covering for LTs, mainly at E and AR which are the 2 I have identified as being short of LTs. The VORs at these garages would just replace the covering conventional deckers. Well we have completely different numbers - I make it 13 spare regardless of VOR’s. Like I said, most LT routes operate to the standard spare allocation bar some examples
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 25, 2022 14:13:18 GMT
According to a picture posted on The Londoner FB group, ENL102, ENL103 and ENL110 have all been decommissioned. Would explain why ENX1-5 are at TC then!
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