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Post by vjaska on Apr 25, 2024 0:40:48 GMT
It would be the first time in some years the 141 would receive a full allocation of new buses, instead of cast off's Did the 141 ever get new vehicles on contract renewal with Arriva? If not then we're looking at least 30-40 years since the 141 got an allocation of brand new vehicles Not 100% sure but did it not receive some VLW's brand new? If not, maybe the Grey Green Volvos were the last new buses then?
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Post by COBO on Apr 25, 2024 2:38:11 GMT
Could the 144 go back to full HV operation using the ex 141 HVs until it’s contract comes to an end in 2025 to dispose its DWs.
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Post by HV64 on Apr 25, 2024 4:31:02 GMT
I think what might happen is HV249-269 and 379-385 stay at AD for the 102, PVR 26. It wil be interesting to see what happens to HV64-92 and 161-192 once AD goes electric. Some good news is perhaps there will be no more SW’s at AD as logistical spares !!!
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Post by VWH1413 on Apr 25, 2024 9:19:30 GMT
I think what might happen is HV249-269 and 379-385 stay at AD for the 102, PVR 26. It wil be interesting to see what happens to HV64-92 and 161-192 once AD goes electric. Some good news is perhaps there will be no more SW’s at AD as logistical spares !!! I forgot 102 is due contract renewal, assuming it doesn’t get an extension? Alternatively 144/329 also like good candidates, assuming they are allowed after 141 converts. Even for 3 years as 62 reg stuff might be a bit off year wise?
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Post by adl on Apr 25, 2024 9:20:38 GMT
I think what might happen is HV249-269 and 379-385 stay at AD for the 102, PVR 26. It wil be interesting to see what happens to HV64-92 and 161-192 once AD goes electric. Some good news is perhaps there will be no more SW’s at AD as logistical spares !!! I forgot 102 is due contract renewal, assuming it doesn’t get an extension? Alternatively 144/329 also like good candidates, assuming they are allowed after 141 converts. Even for 3 years as 62 reg stuff might be a bit off year wise? I can see the 102 keeping the 62 reg and all the newer stuff going elsewhere.
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Post by VWH1413 on Apr 25, 2024 9:25:34 GMT
I forgot 102 is due contract renewal, assuming it doesn’t get an extension? Alternatively 144/329 also like good candidates, assuming they are allowed after 141 converts. Even for 3 years as 62 reg stuff might be a bit off year wise? I can see the 102 keeping the 62 reg and all the newer stuff going elsewhere. Can easily see the newer stuff going elsewhere where needed. In fact more so the ex-Stagecoach stuff as they are in good condition and batteries in those not even 2-3 years old iirc.
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 25, 2024 9:51:04 GMT
I can see the 102 keeping the 62 reg and all the newer stuff going elsewhere. Can easily see the newer stuff going elsewhere where needed. In fact more so the ex-Stagecoach stuff as they are in good condition and batteries in those not even 2-3 years old iirc. I can see the ex-Stagecoch HVs going to DX for the 3 year contracts on the 150 & 175.
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Post by Dad91 on Apr 25, 2024 11:37:35 GMT
I can see the 102 keeping the 62 reg and all the newer stuff going elsewhere. Can easily see the newer stuff going elsewhere where needed. In fact more so the ex-Stagecoach stuff as they are in good condition and batteries in those not even 2-3 years old iirc. 102 gonna join other AD routes new electric buses
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Post by billa on Apr 25, 2024 15:53:11 GMT
I would of though Go Ahead would of had a swipe at it. I reckon there might be enough 200 and 300 series HV's that will become spare to make up the bulk of what would be needed at GY and DX assuming the 123 and 41's DW's don't get decommissioned . Rest maybe sold for some quick liquidity? I think the 64 Reg Ex Stagecoach HV's and the HA's are a bit of a question mark, the HV's were recently refurbished and they do have a little more life in them, similarly the SL1 HA's also have a bit of life left in them although have yet to be refurbished A lot of variables at play here it seems Either they have not bothered to take on new work due to biting more than they can chew over staffing issues, or it does not stack up. There has been around 5 routes they have not bid for, some they used to operate. I was told last year by a ex Go Ahead driver that Northumbland Park relies heavily on agency drivers. I would say you're probably right and they've figured out they're better off filling the routes they already with their own drivers before taking on more.
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Post by lb122 on Apr 25, 2024 17:55:38 GMT
Seems to be more bad news for DT as the 335 has been handed back
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Post by lonmark on Apr 25, 2024 18:58:38 GMT
what happened to our member DT11 ?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 26, 2024 10:06:50 GMT
It would be the first time in some years the 141 would receive a full allocation of new buses, instead of cast off's Did the 141 ever get new vehicles on contract renewal with Arriva? If not then we're looking at least 30-40 years since the 141 got an allocation of brand new vehicles Now looking at it, you are right. There was DLP's but do not think that was a full allocation and think those were mainly for the 29's when new. The Grey-Green buses on the 141 were not new or they would have had to been J reg and I very much doubt the Citybuses were. It could be worst than the case of route 97. It could go back to the 1970's with the Daimler Fleetline!
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 26, 2024 10:11:08 GMT
Could the 144 go back to full HV operation using the ex 141 HVs until it’s contract comes to an end in 2025 to dispose its DWs. Did it ever go full HV? It has been part, never full.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 26, 2024 10:12:47 GMT
I think what might happen is HV249-269 and 379-385 stay at AD for the 102, PVR 26. It wil be interesting to see what happens to HV64-92 and 161-192 once AD goes electric. Some good news is perhaps there will be no more SW’s at AD as logistical spares !!! The 102 is contracted for the Gemini 3 original Arriva HV's and would stay for the 102. Others and any excess would go to other garages to cover new hybrid tender requirements.
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Post by COBO on Apr 26, 2024 13:00:25 GMT
Could the 144 go back to full HV operation using the ex 141 HVs until it’s contract comes to an end in 2025 to dispose its DWs. Did it ever go full HV? It has been part, never full. I thought that HV38-48 was apart of its allocation alongside HV59-63 to make full allocation for the 144 before they went south for the 301 and swapped with the DWs on that route.
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