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Post by DT 11 on Aug 16, 2022 0:27:29 GMT
Not a surprise the older HVs are straying onto other routes. HV280, HV408-412 make regular appearances on the 432. In fact since the route moved to N in April. I do wonder why 432 can never go a day just using its own allocation. I’ve never seen a day where it’s just LT63 Pretty much because there are only 13 of the current type, the Gemini 3s are more reliable than them and there are only 19 vehicles blinded for the route. A few weeks ago the whole service was Gemini 2 HV whilst I was on them...
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Post by portman227 on Aug 16, 2022 4:04:38 GMT
It's demonstrated well that the Ts have been restricted when they really crawl up those Addington hills, to the point where you're worried you're going to fall back down! The ENSs on 410 can’t handle Anerley Hill to save their lives. I’d honestly much rather an SLS on 410 than an ENS The SLS’s really can fly up on Anerley hill, they perform really well. Much faster than the ENS’s and the horrid TH t’s that do 5mph up Anerley hill.
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Post by portman227 on Aug 16, 2022 4:10:24 GMT
Don’t get me started on TH and their awful maintenance on their ADL buses. 95% awfully slow And not bothered to fix those issues they’ve been having for years. One of the ENX’s on the 289 conked out on the 40mph small incline in Purley. A HA straying onto the 250 is probably the best thing that has happened on the route. The 12 reg ENX's on the 289 have been rubbish pretty much since they were introduction but not all the T's are that bad and it's because they've been purposely restricted presumably to save on costs Saving cost at the expense of buses conking out more often than when they aren’t restricted, I mean Other than cost, Purposely restricting the performance of vehicles does no good to any vehicles mechanical health. Surely buses are going to break down more often which means more buses ending up out of work. For now they haven’t messed with the HA’s, presumably because of their fuel efficient nature in comparison to the diesels.
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 16, 2022 8:48:24 GMT
The 12 reg ENX's on the 289 have been rubbish pretty much since they were introduction but not all the T's are that bad and it's because they've been purposely restricted presumably to save on costs Saving cost at the expense of buses conking out more often than when they aren’t restricted, I mean Other than cost, Purposely restricting the performance of vehicles does no good to any vehicles mechanical health. Surely buses are going to break down more often which means more buses ending up out of work. For now they haven’t messed with the HA’s, presumably because of their fuel efficient nature in comparison to the diesels. Has nothing to do with restricting the vehicle and can only be done to a particular speed limit over 30. I have heard no such thing about restricting a vehicle from doing what it is actually meant to do is move at an acceptable speed. I have followed ENSs on Anerley Hill and they should not be moving that slow. Even some of the DWs on the 99 move faster than that, I have had DWs reach 30 MPH, DW423 & 428 on Bostall Hill. The SLSs are good at climbing hills however they are the worst single deckers in service, would much rather an Enviro 200 than those monstrosity. When T132 was on loan to DT from TH there was nothing wrong with it and climbed the hills very well on the 269.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 16, 2022 10:22:44 GMT
Saving cost at the expense of buses conking out more often than when they aren’t restricted, I mean Other than cost, Purposely restricting the performance of vehicles does no good to any vehicles mechanical health. Surely buses are going to break down more often which means more buses ending up out of work. For now they haven’t messed with the HA’s, presumably because of their fuel efficient nature in comparison to the diesels. Has nothing to do with restricting the vehicle and can only be done to a particular speed limit over 30. I have heard no such thing about restricting a vehicle from doing what it is actually meant to do is move at an acceptable speed. I have followed ENSs on Anerley Hill and they should not be moving that slow. Even some of the DWs on the 99 move faster than that, I have had DWs reach 30 MPH, DW423 & 428 on Bostall Hill. The SLSs are good at climbing hills however they are the worst single deckers in service, would much rather an Enviro 200 than those monstrosity. When T132 was on loan to DT from TH there was nothing wrong with it and climbed the hills very well on the 269. It could be a possibility the slow buses are ones with blocked adblue injectors, which would retard the engine power by 50% as it believes the DPF is blocked.
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Post by abellion on Aug 16, 2022 11:26:25 GMT
Probably ENX30 as the others have all been refurbished as far as I aware. I think abellion was saying that TC’s buses were in poor external condition (which I think is a little harsh) rather than DT’s. Maybe it is harsh but there’s no denying some of the buses at TC/TH are not in good shape at all. The B15 was just one bus spotted, I don’t know anything about DT outside of that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 12:18:09 GMT
T79 is perhaps one of the finest examples of a refurbished E400.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 16, 2022 20:28:34 GMT
I’m surprised N are being more lenient and putting LT63 HVs onto the 468 Not a surprise the older HVs are straying onto other routes. HV280, HV408-412 make regular appearances on the 432. In fact since the route moved to N in April. Theyve only strayed on 2, 249 and 468 so far.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 16, 2022 20:34:33 GMT
I do wonder why 432 can never go a day just using its own allocation. I’ve never seen a day where it’s just LT63 Pretty much because there are only 13 of the current type, the Gemini 3s are more reliable than them and there are only 19 vehicles blinded for the route. A few weeks ago the whole service was Gemini 2 HV whilst I was on them... There are actually 21 buses blinded for them (if the 61 reg Ts are also blinded, then 35). Afaik, HV280, 284, 407-412 are all blinded
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 16, 2022 20:36:37 GMT
I’ve also noticed that N are now putting 137 on their new sets. The 432 buses and any other HV blinded for 432 I think has 137. Not sure if 137 is on the newer Ts, however it’s certainly on the older ones along with 2, 2X, 133, 137, 176, N2 and N137
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 16, 2022 21:32:30 GMT
I’ve also noticed that N are now putting 137 on their new sets. The 432 buses and any other HV blinded for 432 I think has 137. Not sure if 137 is on the newer Ts, however it’s certainly on the older ones along with 2, 2X, 133, 137, 176, N2 and N137 T227, T288-300 do not have 137 or 432 on the blinds. They have the same blinds as the HTs.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 16, 2022 23:59:34 GMT
I’ve also noticed that N are now putting 137 on their new sets. The 432 buses and any other HV blinded for 432 I think has 137. Not sure if 137 is on the newer Ts, however it’s certainly on the older ones along with 2, 2X, 133, 137, 176, N2 and N137 T227, T288-300 do not have 137 or 432 on the blinds. They have the same blinds as the HTs. So do they have 690 as well?
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 17, 2022 5:46:05 GMT
T227, T288-300 do not have 137 or 432 on the blinds. They have the same blinds as the HTs. So do they have 690 as well? Arriva don’t operate the 690 anymore. Newer blinds are likely to have it excluded.
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 17, 2022 7:01:19 GMT
So do they have 690 as well? Arriva don’t operate the 690 anymore. Newer blinds are likely to have it excluded. Indeed they do not however I stated they have the same blinds as the HTs. Arriva still ran the 690 in 2020 so yes they are on the blinds of those Ts I listed above....
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Aug 17, 2022 10:56:43 GMT
HV406 on the 432 for the first time. It looks like they’re gradually blinding them in order— first HV408, then 407, now 406. I won’t be surprised if HV405 is the next 😂
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