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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 3, 2023 8:29:34 GMT
SW2, SW6 and SW9 have been spotted at TC this evening. Wonder what they’re doing there? According to the engineer there, its said to be permanent but also heard they're temporarily going onto the 312. Some would remain at [AD] over the weekend to be used on rail replacement work. London Overground and DLR |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 3, 2023 8:31:03 GMT
Don't put them on the 466   Or the 60. Can you imagine these lumps on the hills around Old Coulsdon? 😮😮😮 They are not bad on hills. The biggest problem with them is off the mark at times. This was down to the software itself. Wrightbus mapping to meet TfL's regulations and then severe turbo lag. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 3, 2023 8:51:33 GMT
Dont think the SW’s are really suited to any of those routes tbh, especially not the hills of the 412. If you had to pick any of those maybe the 60 as it’s mostly a trundling trunk route with the garage in the middle? So they don’t have *that* far to stray from the garage at any time Agree, think the 412 is the least suited route for these vehicles. Only rhyme or reason I can currently come up with is they are to replace the HVs on the 466 to allow vehicles for whichever SL route was going to be X34, probably indirectly. But my doubt to this is then why not keep them at AD. Reliability of the batch seems to have drastically improved over recent months, did they have a modification program? No, only engine remapping |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 3, 2023 8:52:26 GMT
Asking for trouble sending such unreliable buses that far from their new home? Hopefully the youtuber Frozzles will upload the "STREETDECK THRASHED TO WITHIN INCH OF HER LIFE On Rail Replacement" video soon, somwe can see the 39mph top speeds They do 50mph, they do still actually make that speed and sit at it, that is what they are limited to |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2023 11:20:14 GMT
Does anyone know the registration of ES051? ES050 and ES051 hadn't been given provisional 23 registrations by mid-August which makes me suspect strongly they will have 73 registrations. All up to ES049 were registered by mid-August. ES050 is LV23ZCZ |
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Post by M1104 on Sept 3, 2023 15:21:30 GMT
They go in the 131 a lot because there’s considerably more WSDs now than the 44’s PVR thanks to its PVR cut. To be fair as much as I hate the WSDs on my beloved route, they are best suited to the 131 due to it being very flat and with no real thrashy parts. The 57 is slightly more demanding. The WSDs do very often find themselves on the 57/280 too, due to AL’s nearly non existent allocations They could move them to the 476, no hills as such, generally 20 zones throughout (not sure if these are hybrids as they have that 48v system with the small electric motor helping the engine)? With those specs they are indeed classed as hybrids. |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 3, 2023 18:29:21 GMT
They could move them to the 476, no hills as such, generally 20 zones throughout (not sure if these are hybrids as they have that 48v system with the small electric motor helping the engine)? With those specs they are indeed classed as hybrids. I wondered as Stagecoach's Smart Hybrids are classed as diesels, I wonder what fuel stickers the WSD's have? Still to get back to Arriva, ENR2 really needs a lick of paint, looking shabby on the 318. Roadworks on junction of Bruce Grove / High Road affecting all buses in Tottenham, has been like that since the weekend  |
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Post by abellion on Sept 3, 2023 18:38:12 GMT
With those specs they are indeed classed as hybrids. I wondered as Stagecoach's Smart Hybrids are classed as diesels, I wonder what fuel stickers the WSD's have? Still to get back to Arriva, ENR2 really needs a lick of paint, looking shabby on the 318. Roadworks on junction of Bruce Grove / High Road affecting all buses in Tottenham, has been like that since the weekend They have hybrid stickers unlike Smarts |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 3, 2023 19:24:09 GMT
I wondered as Stagecoach's Smart Hybrids are classed as diesels, I wonder what fuel stickers the WSD's have? Still to get back to Arriva, ENR2 really needs a lick of paint, looking shabby on the 318. Roadworks on junction of Bruce Grove / High Road affecting all buses in Tottenham, has been like that since the weekend They have hybrid stickers unlike Smarts This is getting confusing and there's a lack of consistency, the Smarts still have Ultracapacitors in them so I'm unsure why they're posted as full diesels. Going the other way I'm sure that the Smarts have a higher voltage than MicroHybrids so why do the WSDs have the Hybrid sticker. |
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Post by yunus on Sept 3, 2023 19:37:20 GMT
With those specs they are indeed classed as hybrids. I wondered as Stagecoach's Smart Hybrids are classed as diesels, I wonder what fuel stickers the WSD's have? Still to get back to Arriva, ENR2 really needs a lick of paint, looking shabby on the 318. Roadworks on junction of Bruce Grove / High Road affecting all buses in Tottenham, has been like that since the weekend The Smarts are still registered as Hybrids officially. They should not really have the Diesel sticker, as EastLondoner said they have Ultracapacitors which ticks the Hybrid box. If you ride or stand by side between a conventional Diesel MMC + Smart MMC you can hear/feel the difference. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 3, 2023 21:56:00 GMT
They have hybrid stickers unlike Smarts This is getting confusing and there's a lack of consistency, the Smarts still have Ultracapacitors in them so I'm unsure why they're posted as full diesels. Going the other way I'm sure that the Smarts have a higher voltage than MicroHybrids so why do the WSDs have the Hybrid sticker. I believe it is to do with the driveline. The ultra capacitors are merely additional battery sources. |
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 3, 2023 22:49:39 GMT
Was speaking to a driver from TH this evening and was mentioned the 410 is rumoured to be going fully SLS using the surplus SLSs from the 450.
Overall I would not be surprised if this does happen considering the age of the ENSs and the route being up for tender at the moment.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Sept 3, 2023 23:24:49 GMT
Was speaking to a driver from TH this evening and was mentioned the 410 is rumoured to be going fully SLS using the surplus SLSs from the 450. Overall I would not be surprised if this does happen considering the age of the ENSs and the route being up for tender at the moment. I had imagined this would happen ever since the 450 result. I wonder what’ll happen to the excess SLSs as I don’t believe there are any routes up soon which could use them— Arriva didn't manage to win a route that could actually use them like the 382 for example. 410 will only require SLS9-22 to directly replace ENS15-28, and that’s assuming it doesn’t get a PVR cut upon tender which I believe it will |
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Post by yunus on Sept 3, 2023 23:37:01 GMT
Was speaking to a driver from TH this evening and was mentioned the 410 is rumoured to be going fully SLS using the surplus SLSs from the 450. Overall I would not be surprised if this does happen considering the age of the ENSs and the route being up for tender at the moment. Are the SLSs not a non standard bus in TFL? Thought they were the same as the buses on the 227. I could see the 410 going EV tbh. |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 4, 2023 0:13:56 GMT
Was speaking to a driver from TH this evening and was mentioned the 410 is rumoured to be going fully SLS using the surplus SLSs from the 450. Overall I would not be surprised if this does happen considering the age of the ENSs and the route being up for tender at the moment. Are the SLSs not a non standard bus in TFL? Thought they were the same as the buses on the 227. I could see the 410 going EV tbh. There are plenty of Streetlites operating under TfL between Arriva, Go-Ahead, RATP, Stagecoach & Sullivan Buses so wouldn't qualify as non standard especially given they outnumber several other types of single deckers. Besides, non standard is usually gauged between the vehicles under one operator and not under a whole body like TfL. The SLS's are the same as the 227's WS's minus the usual minor operator differences and the length of both sets of vehicles. |
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