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Post by billa on Sept 8, 2023 21:00:50 GMT
Most likely just USB Ports, it's supposed to be a standard with all Superloop routes. Not sure how true the following is, but thought I would share it here: I'm a bit surprised they're as angry as it seems, AD and WN are quite close distance wise. Is there a change in the car park situation between the two garages? Parking is very limited at Wood Green, a lot of drivers dont want to be forced to move regardless of the parking situation. Does come as a bit of surprise they opted to run the SL1 from AD and not EC. I will say I've heard nothing so far about the 329's being moved. Although I didnt even get a chance to do anything with how the W3's have been running today
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Post by busoccultation on Sept 8, 2023 21:19:14 GMT
I wonder what the upgrade to the interiors would be? Phone chargers I would imagine. I can't see them putting in high back seats of re doing the floors. Most likely just USB Ports, it's supposed to be a standard with all Superloop routes. Not sure how true the following is, but thought I would share it here: I'm kind of suprised that the 329 is being considered to move to a WN in a way as I would have thought that SL1 would use the space left by the 340 at AD and keep the parking arrangement for the 34 at EC as they are currently with a slight tweak to that if needed.
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Post by HV64 on Sept 8, 2023 21:35:35 GMT
So last week AD lost the 340, PVR 9. 3 duties on the 141 and now the 329 PVR 15 moving to WN. I wonder what the combined PVR for the 34 and the SL1 is for AD to lose so much work? Plus what happens if the WN redevelopment plans go ahead? Only other thing I can think of is if the full 34 allocation plus SL1 is based at AD, then that leaves space at EC if the WN redevelopment goes ahead
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Sept 8, 2023 21:59:16 GMT
Most likely just USB Ports, it's supposed to be a standard with all Superloop routes. Not sure how true the following is, but thought I would share it here: I'm kind of suprised that the 329 is being considered to move to a WN in a way as I would have thought that SL1 would use the space left by the 340 at AD and keep the parking arrangement for the 34 at EC as they are currently with a slight tweak to that if needed. I was even about to ask. Doesn’t 340’s hole leave enough space for the SL1? More than enough even— I thought SL1 was due to be smaller than 340
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Post by HV64 on Sept 8, 2023 23:28:13 GMT
And also with todays excitement what happened to the Friday and Saturday night N34?
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Post by COBO on Sept 9, 2023 2:33:58 GMT
And also with todays excitement what happened to the Friday and Saturday night N34? It was surspended during covid.
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Post by kermit463 on Sept 9, 2023 5:10:48 GMT
Currently on a 333 to Elephant and Castle although ibus is saying 333 to Bricklayers Arms, New Kent Road. When did this extension happen 😂
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 9, 2023 5:54:44 GMT
Something I forgot to mention from my Saturday evening in Croydon was how fantastic the HA refurbs at TH are. I genuinely confused HA27 on the 198 as EA27! It's great that a 6/7 year old bus can look like it just rolled off the production line after a good revamp. With that, I almost wish I'd waited until now before going to Croydon, rather than going in January. This could strengthen my resolve to avoid Wood Green until the HAs for route W3 are refurbished.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 9, 2023 5:57:02 GMT
Would've looked even better if they had the Arriva logo on the front like the EAs do All buses must have operator logos at the front removed and replaced by the TFL Roundel. Saw HV373 with a newly painted front panel today ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That is good news if the roundel is being placed on the front. It does look a bit bare with nothing in place of the operator name.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 9, 2023 5:58:17 GMT
It will fit into CT because of the amount of night buses Clapton operates. The notice states that "The proposed reallocation is to relocate Route 254 so it will operate fully out of Clapton as we have space available". SF is rumoured to be reponed but nothing yet confirmed Nice to see the 253 and 254 back together again. The 38, 242, 253 and 254 have all had reductions so the combined lower PVRs can fit the 73 in compared to back in the early 00s. Talking of which, with 393 not regained and route 242 potentially lost, CT could become an all-LT garage.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 9, 2023 6:08:16 GMT
There's the usual complaining. But this is a blatant lie to your staff members. The SL1 is a new route yes, but remember the 34 is losing a few buses of itself to facilitate this. At most Arriva's increase in PVR will be around 3-4, maybe 5 at a push. The SL7 change was far bigger and Go Ahead didn't go around telling everyone they'd won a new tender, I don't even think they mentioned it publicly that the X26 received the contract extension for a year. The SL1 is a smaller change in the grand scheme and the 34 hasn't had a contract extension. If anything Arriva should have been even more cautious as the SL1 was added to the programme in a tender update. Is it a lie? They are running the SL1 until November 2024 (Unless it has been awarded a new tender, which will see later if the results are published). Arriva make no mention of it being a 5 year or 7 year tender or make mentions of rotas. I don’t see the problem celebrating the fact they will be running the service. I don’t see the difference in this and say a short term tender / contract like the 728. Maybe route SL1 is being introduced in place of part of route 34 allocation-wise, just as route X140 was introduced in place of part of route 140 route-wise, and thus starting out with effectively the incumbent operator? Then both routes 34 and SL1 will start new tenders in November 2024 with as yet unconfirmed operators?
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Post by abellion on Sept 9, 2023 7:25:22 GMT
Currently on a 333 to Elephant and Castle although ibus is saying 333 to Bricklayers Arms, New Kent Road. When did this extension happen 😂 The 155 is doing this too!
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Sept 9, 2023 7:34:50 GMT
As long as they keep the lease going, why can't they mothball it? Theoretically they could do that, but bare in mind they're vacating Ash Grove as apart of an "overall cost review" rather then it being a strategic move. There's marginal savings in relocating the 254 drivers, the engineers, Garage Supervisors and whoever else to Clapton paying them disturbance pay (I assume) for the move and then continue to lease Ash Grove just in case. Its possible that TFL will keep the garage spilt for multiple operators to use, or for Arriva to return at a later date. That being said I cant see why Stagecoach wouldnt want complete control of the garage to complete their own electrification for the D7's. Time will tell I supposeI actually wouldn't be surprised if no disturbance pay was required considering the distance between them is under a mile.
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Post by mondraker275 on Sept 9, 2023 7:48:37 GMT
And also with todays excitement what happened to the Friday and Saturday night N34? Could return. I think 183 had it tio and considering 123 has gone 24 hours may be they may look to see if the Superloop parts need night cover.
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Post by WH241 on Sept 9, 2023 10:48:32 GMT
Is it a lie? They are running the SL1 until November 2024 (Unless it has been awarded a new tender, which will see later if the results are published). Arriva make no mention of it being a 5 year or 7 year tender or make mentions of rotas. I don’t see the problem celebrating the fact they will be running the service. I don’t see the difference in this and say a short term tender / contract like the 728. Maybe route SL1 is being introduced in place of part of route 34 allocation-wise, just as route X140 was introduced in place of part of route 140 route-wise, and thus starting out with effectively the incumbent operator? Then both routes 34 and SL1 will start new tenders in November 2024 with as yet unconfirmed operators? Yes this is what I was saying yesterday in the various threads about the SL1 /34.
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