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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 12, 2023 16:55:59 GMT
Wonder if Arriva may use the 242 HVs to top up the 158 and retain it with existing hybrids until 2030. They could be used for the SL1 |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 12, 2023 17:34:15 GMT
Wonder if Arriva may use the 242 HVs to top up the 158 and retain it with existing hybrids until 2030. They could be used for the SL1 The 242 doesn't transfer to Stagecoach until late February, the SL1 will need buses before then. |
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Post by busboy17 on Sept 12, 2023 18:03:43 GMT
They could be used for the SL1 The 242 doesn't transfer to Stagecoach until late February, the SL1 will need buses before then. I suspect the W3 will remain with diesels and the HA's will divert to SL1in December with the W3 taking either the 242 HV's in February or HA'S released from the 133/333 in January. (This is pure speculation). |
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Post by buston on Sept 12, 2023 18:17:45 GMT
The 242 doesn't transfer to Stagecoach until late February, the SL1 will need buses before then. I suspect the W3 will remain with diesels and the HA's will divert to SL1in December with the W3 taking either the 242 HV's in February or HA'S released from the 133/333 in January. (This is pure speculation). these are the HVs with the red & grey checky seat moquette like the MMCs with Sullivans have, is that correct,and which also look just like the Envirocity electrics? |
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Post by billa on Sept 12, 2023 21:10:39 GMT
Wonder if Arriva may use the 242 HVs to top up the 158 and retain it with existing hybrids until 2030. They have a lot of work coming up which they could use the route 242 HVs to retain a route like route 66. Depends on where the W3/279 T's end up, I'd of assumed they would be sent to replace the 09 reg DW's and T's as a stop gap since theres around 52 of them between the two routes. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 12, 2023 21:18:34 GMT
They could be used for the SL1 The 242 doesn't transfer to Stagecoach until late February, the SL1 will need buses before then. Ah yes, I forgot |
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 12, 2023 21:49:24 GMT
Gemini 3’s to GY perhaps? 66 and or 103 retain? Or the 194? 194's exactly what I thought seeing as both routes have the same PVR |
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Post by vjaska on Sept 13, 2023 0:05:37 GMT
I suspect the W3 will remain with diesels and the HA's will divert to SL1in December with the W3 taking either the 242 HV's in February or HA'S released from the 133/333 in January. (This is pure speculation). these are the HVs with the red & grey checky seat moquette like the MMCs with Sullivans have, is that correct,and which also look just like the Envirocity electrics? The HA's have the TfL spec interior your referring to and have the same body as the electrics your also referring to |
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Post by greygreen1989 on Sept 13, 2023 4:20:10 GMT
Any idea what buses thay might use to run superloop 1 route,would new electrics not be a good idea as a further improvement to zero emission buses in the suburbs?
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 13, 2023 4:35:02 GMT
Any idea what buses thay might use to run superloop 1 route,would new electrics not be a good idea as a further improvement to zero emission buses in the suburbs? Existing buses, I assume G3 HVs at AD. No garage nearby is electrified yet |
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Post by COBO on Sept 13, 2023 4:46:27 GMT
Any idea what buses thay might use to run superloop 1 route,would new electrics not be a good idea as a further improvement to zero emission buses in the suburbs? Probably likely hybrids. The type of hybrids hasn't been confirmed yet. |
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Post by londonbuses on Sept 13, 2023 20:35:00 GMT
I wonder if the upcoming Croydon tranches don't go Arriva's way, would Croydon (TC) garage be at risk of being sold?
If the 194/250/255/289/627 are all lost (I expect the 410 to be retained with the existing SLS's) then everything at TC could easily fit into TH and N. TH has had chargers installed for the 64/612 so there shouldn't be any risk to it (I'm aware there are chargers at TC for the 312 but they are old technology now) and the 312 is being extended to Purley Old Lodge Lane so the facility to turn the route there will also no longer be needed.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 13, 2023 21:09:16 GMT
I wonder if the upcoming Croydon tranches don't go Arriva's way, would Croydon (TC) garage be at risk of being sold? If the 194/250/255/289/627 are all lost (I expect the 410 to be retained with the existing SLS's) then everything at TC could easily fit into TH and N. TH has had chargers installed for the 64/612 so there shouldn't be any risk to it (I'm aware there are chargers at TC for the 312 but they are old technology now) and the 312 is being extended to Purley Old Lodge Lane so the facility to turn the route there will also no longer be needed. Interestingly I think Arriva’s Croydon routes are actually the safest, not for the reason I think they’ll be really competitive, but moreso that the competition won’t have space for all of them. GAL are now chocca in all of south London, ditto Abellio. The only TC route I could maybe see going is the 194 over to Stagecoach, but I think the rest will be pretty safe |
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Post by londonbuses184 on Sept 13, 2023 21:09:38 GMT
The 242 doesn't transfer to Stagecoach until late February, the SL1 will need buses before then. I suspect the W3 will remain with diesels and the HA's will divert to SL1in December with the W3 taking either the 242 HV's in February or HA'S released from the 133/333 in January. (This is pure speculation). I think some HVs from the 34, 243 and 341 PVR cut will be released onto the SL1 |
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 13, 2023 21:17:17 GMT
I wonder if the upcoming Croydon tranches don't go Arriva's way, would Croydon (TC) garage be at risk of being sold? If the 194/250/255/289/627 are all lost (I expect the 410 to be retained with the existing SLS's) then everything at TC could easily fit into TH and N. TH has had chargers installed for the 64/612 so there shouldn't be any risk to it (I'm aware there are chargers at TC for the 312 but they are old technology now) and the 312 is being extended to Purley Old Lodge Lane so the facility to turn the route there will also no longer be needed. Interestingly I think Arriva’s Croydon routes are actually the safest, not for the reason I think they’ll be really competitive, but moreso that the competition won’t have space for all of them. GAL are now chocca in all of south London, ditto Abellio. The only TC route I could maybe see going is the 194 over to Stagecoach, but I think the rest will be pretty safe Stockwell has a bit of space thou even with the 333 and 337 moving back in to manage the 50 and 250 from the Brixton end but I agree I think they have their best chance of retaining in the Croydon area. |
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