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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Oct 1, 2023 12:00:03 GMT
What’s the current mood at TH concerning the pending tenders? Everyone is just waiting patiently, while type training for the ES is yet to begin Good luck to my local garage  . What’s your favourite route at TH? |
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 1, 2023 12:02:26 GMT
Everyone is just waiting patiently, while type training for the ES is yet to begin Good luck to my local garage . What’s your favourite route at TH? I would say my favourite is 198, then 289, then 255. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Oct 1, 2023 12:05:34 GMT
Good luck to my local garage . What’s your favourite route at TH? I would say my favourite is 198, then 289, then 255. And let me guess, 250 is your least favourite?  |
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Post by greenboy on Oct 1, 2023 12:07:21 GMT
Depends which part of the route you had the ENX on. On the Purley Way these things go at a snails pace! They are the slowest batch of E200's in London that I've ever experienced and even the three that moved over from E are just as bad. I do wonder however if it's just a case of TH not cleaning out their filters, but either way this batch haven't been looked after well at all. I used to be on the 289 rota, and I came off it just based on how bad the buses are, especially ENX7. It doesn't move until the accelerator pedal is all the way to the floor, and the hill after the Colonnades doesn't achieve more than 15mph and is a 40mph road. I cannot wait for the 289 tender so that it can get proper buses I think questions should be asked as to whether that bus is fit for service. Aren't some of the T's as bad? I know somebody who uses the 64 regularly and he said some buses barely even move, he was delighted when I told him about the upcoming electric buses. What route are you on now? |
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 1, 2023 12:14:29 GMT
I used to be on the 289 rota, and I came off it just based on how bad the buses are, especially ENX7. It doesn't move until the accelerator pedal is all the way to the floor, and the hill after the Colonnades doesn't achieve more than 15mph and is a 40mph road. I cannot wait for the 289 tender so that it can get proper buses I think questions should be asked as to whether that bus is fit for service. Aren't some of the T's as bad? I know somebody who uses the 64 regularly and he said some buses barely even move, he was delighted when I told him about the upcoming electric buses. What route are you on now? We tell the engineers it is not fit for service, yet they still put it out and it gets subbed again. I am on spares so I do everything. I did 64 yesterday and both buses were just so slow, both had no power moving off and going uphill is a joke |
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 1, 2023 12:33:13 GMT
I would say my favourite is 198, then 289, then 255. And let me guess, 250 is your least favourite? 109 & 250 have been routes mentioned as the most disliked. A 450 driver who has now moved to C I think has been on it since the 90s after a while refused to do 109 & 250. 250 & 450 funny enough are high for fare evasion. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 1, 2023 12:34:46 GMT
I think questions should be asked as to whether that bus is fit for service. Aren't some of the T's as bad? I know somebody who uses the 64 regularly and he said some buses barely even move, he was delighted when I told him about the upcoming electric buses. What route are you on now? We tell the engineers it is not fit for service, yet they still put it out and it gets subbed again. I am on spares so I do everything. I did 64 yesterday and both buses were just so slow, both had no power moving off and going uphill is a joke It’s honestly a blessing the Ts are going. They struggle on any slight incline. I once had a T doing, I kid you not, 5mph uphill in New Addington. Let’s hope the ESs remain in good nick |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2023 12:42:28 GMT
I didn't mind mine (12-reg IIRC) on route 289 in January. Conversely, I shunned those at DT last August as they seemed dreadful. Depends which part of the route you had the ENX on. On the Purley Way these things go at a snails pace! They are the slowest batch of E200's in London that I've ever experienced and even the three that moved over from E are just as bad. I do wonder however if it's just a case of TH not cleaning out their filters, but either way this batch haven't been looked after well at all. My ride was from Purley to Thornton Heath Pond. It was not just the vehicle but the route by-passing central Croydon that interested me. Come to think of it, there may have been typically a 10 second wait for the bus to accelerate, but I hardly noticed and didn't mind. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 1, 2023 12:44:06 GMT
Depends which part of the route you had the ENX on. On the Purley Way these things go at a snails pace! They are the slowest batch of E200's in London that I've ever experienced and even the three that moved over from E are just as bad. I do wonder however if it's just a case of TH not cleaning out their filters, but either way this batch haven't been looked after well at all. 289 is not a route I use frequently, but remember catching one (12-reg, not sure which one) back from Mayday to West Croydon, was worried it was going to shake itself apart. I know E200s are not great, but this was exceptionally bad. I generally find the longer examples are worse than the shorter ones, the ENS on the 410 are nowhere near as bad in comparison. Although I did find my ENX on route 289 reasonable, I did like the ENSs more all along. I have done one on route W11 in 2013 and 410 in 2021. These ENSs might be good for route 318, enabling single-door ENRs to replace older buses elsewhere within Arriva. |
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 1, 2023 12:52:41 GMT
We tell the engineers it is not fit for service, yet they still put it out and it gets subbed again. I am on spares so I do everything. I did 64 yesterday and both buses were just so slow, both had no power moving off and going uphill is a joke It’s honestly a blessing the Ts are going. They struggle on any slight incline. I once had a T doing, I kid you not, 5mph uphill in New Addington. Let’s hope the ESs remain in good nick I can do better, I drove the 255 the other day and got ENL60, probably the worst bus in the garage. I would say it takes about 20 seconds to move off, takes forever to get up to the speed of the road. By the time I can get to a good speed, I have to stop. Both the front doors and back doors take forever to open and close. Was going up St Leonards Church in Streatham which is a bit of a hill, kid you not, 1-2 mph, such a hazard on the road. It has no power whatsoever |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 1, 2023 12:53:10 GMT
We tell the engineers it is not fit for service, yet they still put it out and it gets subbed again. I am on spares so I do everything. I did 64 yesterday and both buses were just so slow, both had no power moving off and going uphill is a joke It’s honestly a blessing the Ts are going. They struggle on any slight incline. I once had a T doing, I kid you not, 5mph uphill in New Addington. Let’s hope the ESs remain in good nick The irony is they were good for a few years but then they degraded far more than N’s 59 reg. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 1, 2023 13:00:04 GMT
It’s honestly a blessing the Ts are going. They struggle on any slight incline. I once had a T doing, I kid you not, 5mph uphill in New Addington. Let’s hope the ESs remain in good nick The irony is they were good for a few years but then they degraded far more than N’s 59 reg. To be honest, N’s 59 reg are still quite good. T103 shoots up Anerley Hill like nothing, unlike the TH Ts and ENSs |
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 1, 2023 13:06:25 GMT
It’s honestly a blessing the Ts are going. They struggle on any slight incline. I once had a T doing, I kid you not, 5mph uphill in New Addington. Let’s hope the ESs remain in good nick I can do better, I drove the 255 the other day and got ENL60, probably the worst bus in the garage. I would say it takes about 20 seconds to move off, takes forever to get up to the speed of the road. By the time I can get to a good speed, I have to stop. Both the front doors and back doors take forever to open and close. Was going up St Leonards Church in Streatham which is a bit of a hill, kid you not, 1-2 mph, such a hazard on the road. It has no power whatsoever Have to see if garage management can lay claim to the best of the 325 examples, to get rid of your worst. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 1, 2023 14:41:10 GMT
Depends which part of the route you had the ENX on. On the Purley Way these things go at a snails pace! They are the slowest batch of E200's in London that I've ever experienced and even the three that moved over from E are just as bad. I do wonder however if it's just a case of TH not cleaning out their filters, but either way this batch haven't been looked after well at all. I used to be on the 289 rota, and I came off it just based on how bad the buses are, especially ENX7. It doesn't move until the accelerator pedal is all the way to the floor, and the hill after the Colonnades doesn't achieve more than 15mph and is a 40mph road. I cannot wait for the 289 tender so that it can get proper buses Would you say Ts do better on that section of the 289 or the ENXs? |
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 1, 2023 15:34:07 GMT
I used to be on the 289 rota, and I came off it just based on how bad the buses are, especially ENX7. It doesn't move until the accelerator pedal is all the way to the floor, and the hill after the Colonnades doesn't achieve more than 15mph and is a 40mph road. I cannot wait for the 289 tender so that it can get proper buses Would you say Ts do better on that section of the 289 or the ENXs? I would say the Ts do better, that's how bad the ENXs are |
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