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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 10, 2023 16:56:40 GMT
I know TH is a relatively small garage but with the chargers installed, and infrastructure made for the ES's, plus a very small PVR from 612 coming, doesnt any route need to make space for this to happen, the 410 was said to go to TC. Is that still on? 612 has already been at TH since the start of September. 410 will not be moving out. The original plan was to move the 410 to TC with the 50 to TH, but that idea has been scrapped, and instead, more 137s are parked at N
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 10, 2023 17:45:38 GMT
I know TH is a relatively small garage but with the chargers installed, and infrastructure made for the ES's, plus a very small PVR from 612 coming, doesnt any route need to make space for this to happen, the 410 was said to go to TC. Is that still on? I assume the 410 will continue to have some buses parked up at N? I think this arrangement started when electrification works at TH began.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 18:04:44 GMT
I know TH is a relatively small garage but with the chargers installed, and infrastructure made for the ES's, plus a very small PVR from 612 coming, doesnt any route need to make space for this to happen, the 410 was said to go to TC. Is that still on? I assume the 410 will continue to have some buses parked up at N? I think this arrangement started when electrification works at TH began. TH used Arrivas Beddington site as a temporary outstation during the works with part of the 250 & 255 allocation being based there.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 10, 2023 20:21:02 GMT
Interesting to see both of BNs ESs on the 417 are out later than those on the 307.
Don't understand the reluctance of E to expand the use of the ESs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 20:23:35 GMT
Interesting to see both of BNs ESs on the 417 are out later than those on the 307. Don't understand the reluctance of E to expand the use of the ESs It was reported by a driver at E that they can't use all of the chargers at E due to a capacity issue with the grid although works are being carried out to rectify that issue
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 10, 2023 21:41:19 GMT
Whilst it would be a late in the day change I wonder if the W3 would take the HVs off the 243 and all the HAs stay south for the 50 and 250 and school 689 if retained.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 10, 2023 21:43:04 GMT
Whilst it would be a late in the day change I wonder if the W3 would take the HVs off the 243 and all the HAs stay south for the 50 and 250 and school 689 if retained. That would require W3 to wait a long while for its buses
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Post by vjaska on Oct 10, 2023 23:27:53 GMT
Interesting to see both of BNs ESs on the 417 are out later than those on the 307. Don't understand the reluctance of E to expand the use of the ESs BN's chargers don't have the issues that E does
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 11, 2023 0:06:17 GMT
Interesting to see both of BNs ESs on the 417 are out later than those on the 307. Don't understand the reluctance of E to expand the use of the ESs BN's chargers don't have the issues that E does Which means they can't last so long on a single charge ... not sure that is charger related.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2023 3:50:01 GMT
BN's chargers don't have the issues that E does Which means they can't last so long on a single charge ... not sure that is charger related. If E has issues with its chargers and BN doesn’t, then surely it explains why the two ES’s on the 417 can stay out later than the ES’s on the 307?
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 11, 2023 9:02:09 GMT
Which means they can't last so long on a single charge ... not sure that is charger related. If E has issues with its chargers and BN doesn’t, then surely it explains why the two ES’s on the 417 can stay out later than the ES’s on the 307? Make zero sense to me that statement. The problem was stated as short charging cables, which even if not replaced does not effect the batteries ability to recharge, so needs to come off the road in the evening.
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Post by redexpress on Oct 11, 2023 11:38:31 GMT
If E has issues with its chargers and BN doesn’t, then surely it explains why the two ES’s on the 417 can stay out later than the ES’s on the 307? Make zero sense to me that statement. The problem was stated as short charging cables, which even if not replaced does not effect the batteries ability to recharge, so needs to come off the road in the evening. This is just a guess, but if the short cables mean that they can't charge the whole batch at one time, perhaps they are not giving the buses a full charge, and rotating the buses between the available charging points instead. If you know you are giving the buses just enough juice to last to the end of the PM peak, it doesn't matter if they can't cover the evening service, as there will be diesels available to cover at that time of the day.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 11, 2023 11:46:45 GMT
Make zero sense to me that statement. The problem was stated as short charging cables, which even if not replaced does not effect the batteries ability to recharge, so needs to come off the road in the evening. This is just a guess, but if the short cables mean that they can't charge the whole batch at one time, perhaps they are not giving the buses a full charge, and rotating the buses between the available charging points instead. If you know you are giving the buses just enough juice to last to the end of the PM peak, it doesn't matter if they can't cover the evening service, as there will be diesels available to cover at that time of the day. While possible, they are only using half the batch as it is .... average of about 7 out most days. If they operated a near full ES service from start of day, I would be more willing to accept this statement. There will be buses parked next to the chargers overnight. This is assuming that after 4 months the chargers have not been fixed, which if it is the case suggest Arriva have issue more than just in tendering. If a charger takes 4 months to fix, heaven help them going forward
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2023 11:51:51 GMT
This is just a guess, but if the short cables mean that they can't charge the whole batch at one time, perhaps they are not giving the buses a full charge, and rotating the buses between the available charging points instead. If you know you are giving the buses just enough juice to last to the end of the PM peak, it doesn't matter if they can't cover the evening service, as there will be diesels available to cover at that time of the day. While possible, they are only using half the batch as it is .... average of about 7 out most days. If they operated a near full ES service from start of day, I would be more willing to accept this statement. There will be buses parked next to the chargers overnight. This is assuming that after 4 months the chargers have not been fixed, which if it is the case suggest Arriva have issue more than just in tendering. If a charger takes 4 months to fix, heaven help them going forward How can Arriva be at fault for a problem with the National Grid?
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 11, 2023 11:57:43 GMT
While possible, they are only using half the batch as it is .... average of about 7 out most days. If they operated a near full ES service from start of day, I would be more willing to accept this statement. There will be buses parked next to the chargers overnight. This is assuming that after 4 months the chargers have not been fixed, which if it is the case suggest Arriva have issue more than just in tendering. If a charger takes 4 months to fix, heaven help them going forward How can Arriva be at fault for a problem with the National Grid? So the problem which was originally stated a problem with cables for chargers has switched to the national grid? Sounds rather convenient change of excuse. Problems started with operation in June, when was the first reference to National Grid issues?
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