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Post by greenboy on Oct 11, 2023 12:56:57 GMT
How can Arriva be at fault for a problem with the National Grid? So the problem which was originally stated a problem with cables for chargers has switched to the national grid? Sounds rather convenient change of excuse. Problems started with operation in June, when was the first reference to National Grid issues? This video explains things... youtu.be/GMBZZzd4AxE?si=A78KYLaa7CCPJ1xX
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 11, 2023 13:23:05 GMT
So the problem which was originally stated a problem with cables for chargers has switched to the national grid? Sounds rather convenient change of excuse. Problems started with operation in June, when was the first reference to National Grid issues? This video explains things... youtu.be/GMBZZzd4AxE?si=A78KYLaa7CCPJ1xXThank you, had not previously seen that. Explains somethings, but why are they only garage that seem to be having a lack of charge issues to get through a whole day. Abellio, Metroline, and initial though not conclusive observations suggest BN do not have such an issue. The issue around number in service has been explained, but lack of evening charge and still no Sunday service remain answered. These kind of issue do not bode well for net zero targets ... be fun charging everyones car up each night!
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 11, 2023 15:59:49 GMT
Because they are more reliable, better performance figures, more bonuses. If it was that simple, it would be done far more than what actually occurs. If the contract stipulates minimum 10.2m vehicles, then that’s what has to be adhered to You could say the same about the 289 using double deckers on a daily basis yet they still put them on there. Today they are using ENLs which should also not be on there
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 11, 2023 16:40:16 GMT
If it was that simple, it would be done far more than what actually occurs. If the contract stipulates minimum 10.2m vehicles, then that’s what has to be adhered to You could say the same about the 289 using double deckers on a daily basis yet they still put them on there. Today they are using ENLs which should also not be on there Technically the minimum capacity is specified hence why DD workings are alright but SD workings on a DD contract are frowned apon.
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Post by Unorm on Oct 11, 2023 17:31:54 GMT
Thank you, had not previously seen that. Explains somethings, but why are they only garage that seem to be having a lack of charge issues to get through a whole day. Abellio, Metroline, and initial though not conclusive observations suggest BN do not have such an issue. The issue around number in service has been explained, but lack of evening charge and still no Sunday service remain answered. These kind of issue do not bode well for net zero targets ... be fun charging everyones car up each night! Not currently (concurrent a few months ago) but QB had issues bringing the Metrocities to charge adequately requiring 8204/06/10/11/13 as backups, until infrastructure was improved for the uptake of C3, now only 8204/6 used on 322 as MMCs used on 404. Likewise BC have ironed out 433's Caetanos from a small number that lasted longer than 322's Metrocities but not quite full day sometimes, to almost full operation.
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Post by kermit463 on Oct 12, 2023 7:57:16 GMT
You could say the same about the 289 using double deckers on a daily basis yet they still put them on there. Today they are using ENLs which should also not be on there Technically the minimum capacity is specified hence why DD workings are alright but SD workings on a DD contract are frowned apon. But surely any bus showing up is better than no bus showing up and gaps in the service? Just a thought?
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Post by kermit463 on Oct 12, 2023 7:59:14 GMT
Quick question for when a bus is on diversion as has me thinking about the 255. Is the 255 on a different schedule now it’s on diversion? As the diversion it’s on gets it to Norbury quicker than it’s normal LOR? Or do they just poodle along the rest of the route after the diversion to make them on time again as doubt the controllers want the route running too early
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 12, 2023 9:03:10 GMT
Technically the minimum capacity is specified hence why DD workings are alright but SD workings on a DD contract are frowned apon. But surely any bus showing up is better than no bus showing up and gaps in the service? Just a thought? I tend to agree - so long as everyone waiting was able to board. If there is a working identified on which a single decker would not normally leave passengers behind then it would be acceptable to use one if there was a shortage of double deckers. Or if there was a need for a last-minute substitution and only a single decker was available.
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Post by cybermike137 on Oct 12, 2023 10:48:02 GMT
Quick question for when a bus is on diversion as has me thinking about the 255. Is the 255 on a different schedule now it’s on diversion? As the diversion it’s on gets it to Norbury quicker than it’s normal LOR? Or do they just poodle along the rest of the route after the diversion to make them on time again as doubt the controllers want the route running too early They would only get a new schedule if it is a long term diversion, so yes they have to poodle along until they are on time again. There are some controllers who don't want you to run no more than 5 minutes early.
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 12, 2023 10:48:20 GMT
Technically the minimum capacity is specified hence why DD workings are alright but SD workings on a DD contract are frowned apon. But surely any bus showing up is better than no bus showing up and gaps in the service? Just a thought? Yes it would be but what seemed to be suggested was that the 255 officially convert to smaller buses. The odd appearance won't cause any major problems.
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Post by COBO on Oct 12, 2023 15:32:50 GMT
Are the Electroliners meant for 417 was meant for the 64?
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Post by vjaska on Oct 12, 2023 16:10:11 GMT
Are the Electroliners meant for 417 was meant for the 64? No, the three Electroliners in service on the 417 are meant for BN - TH is due the ones directly numbered after the 307 batch
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 12, 2023 16:44:32 GMT
Are the Electroliners meant for 417 was meant for the 64? No. 64 is ES17-35, 612 is ES36-37 and 417 is ES38-50
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 12, 2023 21:27:19 GMT
Have the next batch of ES's arrived yet for the 279? I hope the charging issues get sorted soon, the new contract starts at the weekend...
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Post by VMH2537 on Oct 13, 2023 7:14:11 GMT
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