eal1ngvolvo483
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Bus Enthusiast based in Ealing, enjoys many stuff like reality shows, Eastern European and Iranian.
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Post by eal1ngvolvo483 on Oct 25, 2023 12:25:24 GMT
The 466 is in tranche 930 in the tendering programme, with its contract expiring on 29th August 2025. I suspect however it may get a 2 year extension which would take it up to August 2027 so watch this space. Would love to see the DWs last until 2027. Same, but isn’t the 466 allocated Ts and HVs on paper?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 25, 2023 12:28:30 GMT
Would love to see the DWs last until 2027. Same, but isn’t the 465 allocated Ts and HVs on paper? 466 is allocated DW542-554 and HV49-55. It was allocated HV56, but that moved to BN for 133’s Holborn reroute. DW542-554, from the 230, and HV49-55, from the 335, replaced the 08 reg Ts at TC, bar T42/43 which belonged to 612
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 25, 2023 12:29:20 GMT
Would love to see the DWs last until 2027. Same, but isn’t the 465 allocated Ts and HVs on paper? No it's contracted vehicles are/were DW542-554 & HV49-56. HV56 is currently at BN so not sure if it has been replaced or if it will return to TC in January.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 25, 2023 12:31:52 GMT
BN (8) currently have more ESs out than E (7), even though 2 (ES41&50) of them are out on the wrong route, 133. It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319 133 seems to be treated like BNs favourite child, gets all the treats, whilst the 50 like the runt of the litter
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Post by vjaska on Oct 25, 2023 13:40:45 GMT
It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319 133 seems to be treated like BNs favourite child, gets all the treats, whilst the 50 like the runt of the litter Is it surprising that the only non LT Central London route at BN gets preferential treatment. Remember the 59 with the 319 HV’s The 50 gets treated the same as the 333 at BN
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 25, 2023 14:16:32 GMT
Same, but isn’t the 465 allocated Ts and HVs on paper? No it's contracted vehicles are/were DW542-554 & HV49-56. HV56 is currently at BN so not sure if it has been replaced or if it will return to TC in January. HV56 will move back to TC when the 133 goes I believe
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 25, 2023 14:29:18 GMT
133 seems to be treated like BNs favourite child, gets all the treats, whilst the 50 like the runt of the litter Is it surprising that the only non LT Central London route at BN gets preferential treatment. Remember the 59 with the 319 HV’s The 50 gets treated the same as the 333 at BN More outer London discrimination it would appear. Treated the same as 333 at present, but was only allowed HAs once the 63-reg HVs moved out.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 25, 2023 15:01:54 GMT
It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319 133 seems to be treated like BNs favourite child, gets all the treats, whilst the 50 like the runt of the litter Although the 133/333 has not been there that long, won by the company in the past decade, they have been very cherished routes that were performing well and made money
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 25, 2023 15:25:49 GMT
I doubt the 250s vehicles will be touched. That involves ordering new smart blinds when the new buses are going to have LED blinds. The 289 could be double decked early using the Ts from the 64. As for the 279 & W3 Ts probably withdrawn… or if the firm want to get rid of DWs then DT is the perfect home for those Ts. I was going to suggest the Ts go over to DX to help retain the 150 and 175, but after consulting with LVF I realise the buses are about 12 years old! Hopefully they'll act as a refurb float, it would be a shame to retire those workhorse Ts before their time. No chance of any of the T's being used for any new contract in London, they are done. I cannot see ANY diesel that is originally euro 1-5 being used now to start a contract. They are highly likely to be withdrawn.
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 25, 2023 15:50:25 GMT
I was going to suggest the Ts go over to DX to help retain the 150 and 175, but after consulting with LVF I realise the buses are about 12 years old! Hopefully they'll act as a refurb float, it would be a shame to retire those workhorse Ts before their time. No chance of any of the T's being used for any new contract in London, they are done. I cannot see ANY diesel that is originally euro 1-5 being used now to start a contract. They are highly likely to be withdrawn. Even the ones on the 62, 217, 294 are now on their second contract now.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 25, 2023 18:59:19 GMT
Is it surprising that the only non LT Central London route at BN gets preferential treatment. Remember the 59 with the 319 HV’s The 50 gets treated the same as the 333 at BN More outer London discrimination it would appear. Treated the same as 333 at present, but was only allowed HAs once the 63-reg HVs moved out. Or the fact the 133 runs past the garage and the 50 doesn't. Outer London discrimination isn't the thing you still think it is - see the majority of electric awards, Superloop, majority of extensions and frequency increases.
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 25, 2023 19:02:14 GMT
More outer London discrimination it would appear. Treated the same as 333 at present, but was only allowed HAs once the 63-reg HVs moved out. Or the fact the 133 runs past the garage and the 50 doesn't. Outer London discrimination isn't the thing you still think it is - see the majority of electric awards, Superloop, majority of extensions and frequency increases. Plus not to mention the 50 will be getting shiny new buses of its own soon! I always thought the 50 got treated quite nicely seeing constant HAs
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 25, 2023 19:48:31 GMT
More outer London discrimination it would appear. Treated the same as 333 at present, but was only allowed HAs once the 63-reg HVs moved out. Or the fact the 133 runs past the garage and the 50 doesn't. Outer London discrimination isn't the thing you still think it is - see the majority of electric awards, Superloop, majority of extensions and frequency increases. Probably all the 133 drivers are type trained on the Electrics. At one point HAs were rare on the 50. Outer London Discrimination is too funny as the Route mentioned is going Electric alongside a few others that have been cast offs for the past few contracts, in addition the garage is not obliged to put out odd workings to please anyone… for two years now EAs have appeared on the 133…
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Post by Max B on Oct 25, 2023 20:03:34 GMT
Same, but isn’t the 465 allocated Ts and HVs on paper? No it's contracted vehicles are/were DW542-554 & HV49-56. HV56 is currently at BN so not sure if it has been replaced or if it will return to TC in January. T168 is what replaced HV56 at TC.
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Post by M1104 on Oct 25, 2023 20:12:27 GMT
Or the fact the 133 runs past the garage and the 50 doesn't. Outer London discrimination isn't the thing you still think it is - see the majority of electric awards, Superloop, majority of extensions and frequency increases. Probably all the 133 drivers are type trained on the Electrics. At one point HAs were rare on the 50. Outer London Discrimination is too funny as the Route mentioned is going Electric alongside a few others that have been cast offs for the past few contracts, in addition the garage is not obliged to put out odd workings to please anyone… for two years now EAs have appeared on the 133… There's also the factor that the 133 would have more spreadover buses than the 333, which means more chances of buses swapped around for the 133.
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