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Post by vjaska on Nov 12, 2023 12:46:07 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a route that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses Funnily enough, I watched an 313 journey video the other day and do want to check that route out someday if an DW appears on and when I have the time. At least it wasn’t an 61 reg TEH or an limping Enviro 200. 😂 The ENX’s that used to be on it were awful
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 12, 2023 13:10:06 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a route that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses Nice and bouncy isn’t it 😂 I was literally thinking those exact words as I was getting thrown around on those fast roads 🤣
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Post by HV92 on Nov 12, 2023 14:00:28 GMT
You do get the occasional DW or T on the 313, suits the country roads much better, especially if the driver puts their foot down!!!
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 12, 2023 15:03:23 GMT
You do get the occasional DW or T on the 313, suits the country roads much better, especially if the driver puts their foot down!!! The 313 was always one of my favourite routes, had some really good journeys when Grey-Green had it- probably the best was the massive Scania K92 deckers (107/108) or the single deck rebodied B10Ms
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 12, 2023 18:35:38 GMT
😂 I was literally thinking those exact words as I was getting thrown around on those fast roads 🤣 Enfield Council don't seem to care for that stretch of road I get thrown about in an SUV with Adaptive Suspension, I dread to think what an LT would handle like
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 13, 2023 12:35:41 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a bus that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses I really do not see the gibberage over this. After all if the route was running RM's or RMC's would the comments of not appropriate be mentioned, I am sure not.
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Post by VWH1413 on Nov 13, 2023 12:36:00 GMT
Funnily enough, I watched an 313 journey video the other day and do want to check that route out someday if an DW appears on and when I have the time. At least it wasn’t an 61 reg TEH or an limping Enviro 200. 😂 The ENX’s that used to be on it were awful That seems like they were fun on open road sections. 😂
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Post by cardinal on Nov 13, 2023 12:37:57 GMT
😂 I was literally thinking those exact words as I was getting thrown around on those fast roads 🤣 Enfield Council don't seem to care for that stretch of road I get thrown about in an SUV with Adaptive Suspension, I dread to think what an LT would handle like I caught LT189 I think down from Potters Bizarre the other day. Driver was slowing right down at certain points, he clearly knew the road very well. Even then it was a bit like being on a ferry crossing the channel.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 13, 2023 15:37:23 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a bus that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses I really do not see the gibberage over this. After all if the route was running RM's or RMC's would the comments of not appropriate be mentioned, I am sure not. Think I'd have be commenting the RMs are incredibly inappropriate for todays standards
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 13, 2023 15:58:33 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a bus that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses I really do not see the gibberage over this. After all if the route was running RM's or RMC's would the comments of not appropriate be mentioned, I am sure not. I don’t know what RMs/RMCs are, however I would be saying the same if it was ran by Metroline’s gutless E40H that can’t handle any sort of incline
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Post by astock5000 on Nov 13, 2023 16:35:12 GMT
Currently trundling through Botany Bay on an LT on the 313. Don’t think I’ve ever been on a bus that suits a route less than this. Trundling through the glorious countryside on a bus that is designed for central London, it feels so out of place out here. It almost feels like James May is driving it when he took the LT out in the countryside 😂😂 A lovely route ruined by god awful buses I really do not see the gibberage over this. After all if the route was running RM's or RMC's would the comments of not appropriate be mentioned, I am sure not. On the couple of occasions I've travelled over that part of the route, the LTs did feel like too much bus for it. However that was in part due to light passenger loads in the middle of the day on a quiet section of route. Otherwise the LT is only a Central London design in terms of its door layout, and had New Routemaster production continued with a 'suburban' version as was once proposed (that is, a version with no centre door, and not the SRM look-alikes) then I'd expect those to have seemed as appropriate on the 313 as anything else, while use of a three-door bus on the outskirts of London would still be thought of as somewhat odd. While the original Routemasters lasted longest in Central London they were never specifically designed with a layout for such use, and indeed the RMC was for a different kind of service entirely, so besides their similarity to the LT in being designed for London Transport / Transport for London rather than being 'off the shelf', I wouldn't say it's a direct comparison.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 13, 2023 16:35:32 GMT
I really do not see the gibberage over this. After all if the route was running RM's or RMC's would the comments of not appropriate be mentioned, I am sure not. I don’t know what RMs/RMCs are, however I would be saying the same if it was ran by Metroline’s gutless E40H that can’t handle any sort of incline RM's/RMC's are classic Routemasters
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Post by cybermike137 on Nov 13, 2023 17:36:37 GMT
ISA is now on HA26, if it works is another question
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 13, 2023 18:02:55 GMT
I don’t know what RMs/RMCs are, however I would be saying the same if it was ran by Metroline’s gutless E40H that can’t handle any sort of incline RM's/RMC's are classic Routemasters Aaaahhh in which case i definitely would have mentioned they don’t suit the route!!! Even more bouncy than a regular LT 😂
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 13, 2023 18:05:42 GMT
It really should be drivers choice if its on or not. Some drivers love it some hate it, so let them decide especially if its still driver liability regardless of the ISA being on or not
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