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Post by SILENCED on Nov 13, 2023 18:24:19 GMT
It really should be drivers choice if its on or not. Some drivers love it some hate it, so let them decide especially if its still driver liability regardless of the ISA being on or not Don't worry, it will be mandatory on all cars sold after July 24. Who expects new car sales to take a dive, meaning older more polluting cars stay on the road longer?
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 13, 2023 18:34:37 GMT
It really should be drivers choice if its on or not. Some drivers love it some hate it, so let them decide especially if its still driver liability regardless of the ISA being on or not Don't worry, it will be mandatory on all cars sold after July 24. Who expects new car sales to take a dive, meaning older more polluting cars stay on the road longer? Me definitely. If i got a new car with it on I’ll just turn it off straight away. Is has to be able to be disabled by the driver
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 13, 2023 18:37:51 GMT
Don't worry, it will be mandatory on all cars sold after July 24. Who expects new car sales to take a dive, meaning older more polluting cars stay on the road longer? Me definitely. If i got a new car with it on I’ll just turn it off straight away. Is has to be able to be disabled by the driver That will be illegal, probably invalidate your insurance.
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 13, 2023 18:49:26 GMT
Me definitely. If i got a new car with it on I’ll just turn it off straight away. Is has to be able to be disabled by the driver That will be illegal, probably invalidate your insurance. It says in this article here it doesn’t have to be activated www.webuyanycar.com/guides/car-ownership/speed-limiters/#:~:text=From%207th%20July%202024%20onwards,to%20have%20the%20technology%20retrofitted. I drove a hire car with it last year and turned it off straight away, it was wrong half the time thinking 40 roads were 30’s, so the incessant beeping reminding me of it was immensely annoying Anyway back to Arriva
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 13, 2023 19:16:20 GMT
It really should be drivers choice if its on or not. Some drivers love it some hate it, so let them decide especially if its still driver liability regardless of the ISA being on or not Drivers choice?!? I can tell you now if it was down to the driver 100% of drivers would have it switched off! Even though I think 20 is boring I always drive 20. Buses doing 17 and no more is ridiculous.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 14, 2023 0:28:21 GMT
It really should be drivers choice if its on or not. Some drivers love it some hate it, so let them decide especially if its still driver liability regardless of the ISA being on or not Don't worry, it will be mandatory on all cars sold after July 24. Who expects new car sales to take a dive, meaning older more polluting cars stay on the road longer? People would just modify them or get software de-restrictions. If people have crack so many ECU' to gain top speed limits above a manufacture restricted 155mph what makes you think something as simple as ISA would not be modified. Just as much as fake plates, DPF delete, mileage correction and other non legal things done.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 14, 2023 0:30:14 GMT
Would be funny if just stop oil stuck 2mph signs on the motorway then a load of cars just crawl at a standstill due to ISA
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Post by ronnie on Nov 14, 2023 0:35:50 GMT
Would be funny if just stop oil stuck 2mph signs on the motorway then a load of cars just crawl at a standstill due to ISA What I am more scared about are these systems reading the wrong speed l Iimit board and slowing down suddenly
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Post by exbox on Nov 14, 2023 16:17:29 GMT
Don't worry, it will be mandatory on all cars sold after July 24. Who expects new car sales to take a dive, meaning older more polluting cars stay on the road longer? People would just modify them or get software de-restrictions. If people have crack so many ECU' to gain top speed limits above a manufacture restricted 155mph what makes you think something as simple as ISA would not be modified. Just as much as fake plates, DPF delete, mileage correction and other non legal things done. Yes people will certainly modify them. Insurance companies who are desperate to avoid any reason for paying out on a claim will gladly invalidate the cover of any car found to have been tampered with in this way.
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 14, 2023 19:42:34 GMT
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 14, 2023 19:54:19 GMT
So it does makes it look like TH will be all electric and that the 50 Will move in there as it mentions 35 electric buses at the tram shed which is the 319 and 417. Also looks like the 243 will convert next summer.
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 14, 2023 19:58:35 GMT
What are the two new routes starting in August 2024? Won't be the 76 and SL2 as these start earlier.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 14, 2023 22:59:08 GMT
People would just modify them or get software de-restrictions. If people have crack so many ECU' to gain top speed limits above a manufacture restricted 155mph what makes you think something as simple as ISA would not be modified. Just as much as fake plates, DPF delete, mileage correction and other non legal things done. Yes people will certainly modify them. Insurance companies who are desperate to avoid any reason for paying out on a claim will gladly invalidate the cover of any car found to have been tampered with in this way. A lot are coming with software mods to be virtually undetectable. They are 3 steps behind.
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 14, 2023 23:41:52 GMT
Yes people will certainly modify them. Insurance companies who are desperate to avoid any reason for paying out on a claim will gladly invalidate the cover of any car found to have been tampered with in this way. A lot are coming with software mods to be virtually undetectable. They are 3 steps behind. ISA keeps records on your driving, which will no doubt be used against you by police and insurance companies. Your car will grass you up even if you have it turned off.
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 14, 2023 23:50:05 GMT
So it does makes it look like TH will be all electric and that the 50 Will move in there as it mentions 35 electric buses at the tram shed which is the 319 and 417. Also looks like the 243 will convert next summer. Hmm I read the wording differently. When I see ‘Early next year, Thornton Heath will be fully electrified’ I read that the depot itself will be fully electrified, ready for electric vehicles. Not that it will be using a fully electric fleet. In which case I read it as that the 198 will be keeping its allocation and will probably stay at TH. I just can’t see the 194 moving there, it’s much better positioned at TC.
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