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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 17, 2024 7:01:40 GMT
DX Gar will be seeing HA buses start to move over from BN to DX from this weekend coming due to the lose of the 133/333, the HAs will be for the SL2 and no doubt also run the 175/150 as most garages, odd workings do happen. I doubt it, not without type training. First Hybrids for DX and will not just hit the road just like that the Union will be against use until staff are trained on them. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. Additionally, I don't think many Superloop branded vehicles have made it on to other routes. Whatever type DX gets, they are also likely to be first vehicles at DX to have Smartblinds |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 17, 2024 7:09:26 GMT
I doubt it, not without type training. First Hybrids for DX and will not just hit the road just like that the Union will be against use until staff are trained on them. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. Additionally, I don't think many Superloop branded vehicles have made it on to other routes. Whatever type DX gets, they are also likely to be first vehicles at DX to have Smartblinds The first officially fitted with blinds yes. However DWs from TC have been on loan to DX without blinds. I believe ENL111 or ENL112 has been on loan to DX in the past 325 is on those blinds. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 17, 2024 19:33:35 GMT
Route 254 is scheduled to move into [SF] on 24 February 2024, from this date [AE] would no longer be used. The 76 would be transferred to start at [SF] when won on 23 March 2024 I wonder if the 318 would move back in some day👀 Seeing as SF is electrified, it would be good for a couple of Enviro100 EVs to be ordered for the 318 when EN's 18 and 20 are withdrawn in 2029  |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 17, 2024 20:09:06 GMT
It looks like all 158s HVs are being repainted at least and W3 looks likely. Which means we could get some T on the 158 in return unless diesels come from somewhere else. Probably some of the DWs from the 307 will move there. DW501-DW503 are already on the 158. 4 or so HVs from the 158 would suggest the 242 allocation is heading to the W3. The 15 or so from the 242 would fit nicely and its being lost soon. The ex 333 HAs to the SL2 leaving the HVs from the 243 to be re used. I could see a retain of the 103 and 370 with them and maybe the 66. Personally I think the SL2 should use the HVs from the 133 as due to the short contract and most likely need to be electric next tender using the HAs is a bit wasteful. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 17, 2024 23:03:31 GMT
I wonder if the 318 would move back in some day👀 Seeing as SF is electrified, it would be good for a couple of Enviro100 EVs to be ordered for the 318 when EN's 18 and 20 are withdrawn in 2029 Oh boy, hear we go .....  |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 17, 2024 23:06:30 GMT
DX Gar will be seeing HA buses start to move over from BN to DX from this weekend coming due to the lose of the 133/333, the HAs will be for the SL2 and no doubt also run the 175/150 as most garages, odd workings do happen. Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. A few drivers at [DX] are ex [AE] who were on the 78 with HA's however as you say, with the SL route buses branded, there is to be no odd workings of them on other garage routes even if the blinds are there for it. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 17, 2024 23:10:14 GMT
Probably some of the DWs from the 307 will move there. DW501-DW503 are already on the 158. 4 or so HVs from the 158 would suggest the 242 allocation is heading to the W3. The 15 or so from the 242 would fit nicely and its being lost soon. The ex 333 HAs to the SL2 leaving the HVs from the 243 to be re used. I could see a retain of the 103 and 370 with them and maybe the 66. Personally I think the SL2 should use the HVs from the 133 as due to the short contract and most likely need to be electric next tender using the HAs is a bit wasteful. The very same thing can be said about the SL1 which is due to be announced any day now. The newer HAs are much better to offer than the much older HVs even if it is a short contract, bear in mind existing vehicles have recently been awarded to some routes for 2 or 3 year contract so what is the difference here other than circus tent livery and some replaced seats. |
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Post by billa on Jan 18, 2024 17:40:32 GMT
DX Gar will be seeing HA buses start to move over from BN to DX from this weekend coming due to the lose of the 133/333, the HAs will be for the SL2 and no doubt also run the 175/150 as most garages, odd workings do happen. Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. Its bad enough I have to deal with the HA buses on the SL1 let alone the 175's . Those older DW's are solid, they honestly give me the least issues out of the routes I normally control |
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Post by WH241 on Jan 18, 2024 17:52:12 GMT
Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. Its bad enough I have to deal with the HA buses on the SL1 let alone the 175's . Those older DW's are solid, they honestly give me the least issues out of the routes I normally control I was wondering if the SL2 will be controlled by DX or maybe AR as it shares some sections with route 123? |
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Post by DE20106 on Jan 18, 2024 18:05:24 GMT
DX Gar will be seeing HA buses start to move over from BN to DX from this weekend coming due to the lose of the 133/333, the HAs will be for the SL2 and no doubt also run the 175/150 as most garages, odd workings do happen. Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. This may sound like a really silly question but I’m just intrigued, why would the union be against type training drivers on a newer type of bus? Can’t see why drivers would be against being type trained on a newer bus! |
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Post by billa on Jan 18, 2024 18:06:08 GMT
Its bad enough I have to deal with the HA buses on the SL1 let alone the 175's . Those older DW's are solid, they honestly give me the least issues out of the routes I normally control I was wondering if the SL2 will be controlled by DX or maybe AR as it shares some sections with route 123? Barking is still the plan as far as I know. I think its far easier for DX buses and engineers to reach each end of the route from the garage compared to if AR had to deal with it. |
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Post by bustavane on Jan 18, 2024 18:12:25 GMT
Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. This may sound like a really silly question but I’m just intrigued, why would the union be against type training drivers on a newer type of bus? Can’t see why drivers would be against being type trained on a newer bus! Think you may have misinterpreted this: surely the (any) union would be against their members being expected to carry out any task for which they were not trained. They'd want drivers type-trained before taking out said buses. |
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Post by dace2 on Jan 18, 2024 18:42:46 GMT
Probably some of the DWs from the 307 will move there. DW501-DW503 are already on the 158. 4 or so HVs from the 158 would suggest the 242 allocation is heading to the W3. The 15 or so from the 242 would fit nicely and its being lost soon. The ex 333 HAs to the SL2 leaving the HVs from the 243 to be re used. I could see a retain of the 103 and 370 with them and maybe the 66. Personally I think the SL2 should use the HVs from the 133 as due to the short contract and most likely need to be electric next tender using the HAs is a bit wasteful. thats what im saying. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 18, 2024 18:47:59 GMT
Those vehicles I doubt will be used on the 150 & 175 until staff are type trained on them as the Union will be against it. I expect over the next few weeks engineers will be getting used to them as well as branding put on and the vehicles, plus used to for Route learning the SL2. HAs have not strayed at AD pretty much because of the Route branding. This may sound like a really silly question but I’m just intrigued, why would the union be against type training drivers on a newer type of bus? Can’t see why drivers would be against being type trained on a newer bus! No the Union would be against the vehicles being used in service without any type training. HAs will be a new type to DX as well as the first ever Hybrids there. This may sound like a really silly question but I’m just intrigued, why would the union be against type training drivers on a newer type of bus? Can’t see why drivers would be against being type trained on a newer bus! Think you may have misinterpreted this: surely the (any) union would be against their members being expected to carry out any task for which they were not trained. They'd want drivers type-trained before taking out said buses. Precisely… and the company would not expect drivers to do it either. The same goes for Routes if you haven’t learned it they won’t expect you to do it. There are some routes I could do from start to finish without even route learning them, however it is good to Route learn because drivers who do the route daily will tell you about things you need to know when I learned the 249 I was advised that Tooting Bec Gardens and Streatham High Road Junction is an accident hotspot… why because idiots use the straight ahead lane to turn right one day some idiot is gonna crash into the shop window… |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jan 19, 2024 9:16:32 GMT
This may sound like a really silly question but I’m just intrigued, why would the union be against type training drivers on a newer type of bus? Can’t see why drivers would be against being type trained on a newer bus! No the Union would be against the vehicles being used in service without any type training. HAs will be a new type to DX as well as the first ever Hybrids there. Think you may have misinterpreted this: surely the (any) union would be against their members being expected to carry out any task for which they were not trained. They'd want drivers type-trained before taking out said buses. Precisely… and the company would not expect drivers to do it either. The same goes for Routes if you haven’t learned it they won’t expect you to do it. There are some routes I could do from start to finish without even route learning them, however it is good to Route learn because drivers who do the route daily will tell you about things you need to know when I learned the 249 I was advised that Tooting Bec Gardens and Streatham High Road Junction is an accident hotspot… why because idiots use the straight ahead lane to turn right one day some idiot is gonna crash into the shop window… You see that Junction on the 249 around St Leonards Church. That is a massacre waiting to happen. The amount of times I've seen cars get into accidents around there is alarming. It doesn't help that it has that yellow trap box there. Me I HTL (Hold That LINE!!!) to ensure nobody tries to clip in at the last minute. |
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