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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 20, 2024 13:32:38 GMT
It's probably because Arriva are known to be having issues in tendering, when there's a raging fire going on do you pour a bottle of water on it and call it job done? It's a win, that's right. You want a win over no win at all, end of the day the bottle of water was better than no water at all. But you can't parade this win around and claim that there's been a massive resurgence at the company. The actual resurgence would be is if for example they retain all their existing work that's up and on top of that pick some 7 year contracts up with brand new buses. The SL2 only had one bidder despite both Stagecoach and Go Ahead have the space for the route so we'll never know if Arriva actually would have won that in a competitive round. Even the SF reopening is very tainted if AE had to close, even more so if Stagecoach move in next door. You've effectively given a competitor a garage with around 170-180 space a base right in the middle of Hackney. The one win I will give credit to Arriva for is the 76, that's a good win for them and they did well to win it back. The wins are good for Arriva, and for staff morale. But the point still stands, what's the point of parading around such relatively small wins when you have had the 157, 78, 133, 333 all go within the past few weeks. The 242 and 325 leaving in the next few weeks with only the SL2 and SL5 coming in, both on short contracts. Ups and downs - and there is nothing particularly impressive about GAL in South London or TUK for that matter in terms of performance. Nobody’s parading around what are you going on about ? If you read the thread then you'll find the post where someone was parading around the SL5 win. GAL have a positive EWT variance so they are certainly doing something right |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 20, 2024 13:40:47 GMT
Have to say I think the crown for the most dangerous junction has now been taken by the SL1, having to pull out from the Ravenside Industrial Estate bus stop right across a slip road and back on the fast A406. That’s an absolute disaster waiting to happen That should not be doing that under any circumstance. I dont mind the SL1 drivers using their initiative, and I have told them they're more then welcome to use the slip roads at the Angel Corner flyover/Cambridge Roundabout or Silver Street if the A406 is slow. There's always one or two drivers that want to push the limits. I'll reiterate to the drivers on Tuesday when I'm back in to use the Cooks Ferry Roundabout both ways. Nothing wrong in coming at the Cooks Ferry flyover. It is not hard to get into the lane to come off to the Eley Estate bus stop. It is only departing the stop going uphill to cross the lanes towards North Finchley. It was bad enough doing this to come off on the 34 or 444 going towards Edmonton Angel some years ago, especially if you had a slow DLA or ADL/DWL |
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Post by DE20106 on Jan 20, 2024 13:50:54 GMT
That should not be doing that under any circumstance. I dont mind the SL1 drivers using their initiative, and I have told them they're more then welcome to use the slip roads at the Angel Corner flyover/Cambridge Roundabout or Silver Street if the A406 is slow. There's always one or two drivers that want to push the limits. I'll reiterate to the drivers on Tuesday when I'm back in to use the Cooks Ferry Roundabout both ways. Nothing wrong in coming at the Cooks Ferry flyover. It is not hard to get into the lane to come off to the Eley Estate bus stop. It is only departing the stop going uphill to cross the lanes towards North Finchley. It was bad enough doing this to come off on the 34 or 444 going towards Edmonton Angel some years ago, especially if you had a slow DLA or ADL/DWL Yes that bit, the uphill bit in the North Finchley direction. Not to mention the distance to get back on the A406, as the bus stop is right at where the slip road forks off. I didn’t know drivers weren’t meant to cut across like my one did, he obviously fancied his chances with it being a quiet Sunday morning |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 14:15:37 GMT
Arriva in the south of London outside of what I really know but looking on LVF it seems all the extra ES's are not being used now? I think I am right they were only being used at BN because route 64 is not ready for them?
Route 50 seems to have kept the older HVs.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 20, 2024 14:31:04 GMT
It would have been a better nod to history had route 76 returned to AR and 149 reallocated to SF. I understand for historical reasons, but it makes better financial sense and route performing to keep it as now proposed. Actually, one tidyness I do recognise in having route 76 at SF and 149 at AR, rather than vice versa, is that route 149 is the more northern route running from the more northern garage (AR). |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jan 20, 2024 17:28:37 GMT
Have to say I think the crown for the most dangerous junction has now been taken by the SL1, having to pull out from the Ravenside Industrial Estate bus stop right across a slip road and back on the fast A406. That’s an absolute disaster waiting to happen That should not be doing that under any circumstance. I dont mind the SL1 drivers using their initiative, and I have told them they're more then welcome to use the slip roads at the Angel Corner flyover/Cambridge Roundabout or Silver Street if the A406 is slow. There's always one or two drivers that want to push the limits. I'll reiterate to the drivers on Tuesday when I'm back in to use the Cooks Ferry Roundabout both ways. As mentioned the awkwardness is only in one direction, so no need for buses to be fixed. Like the option of the flexibility at all sections. Sometimes there are not many vehicles at all. While I am here, for my third consecutive SL1 journey from NF, the bus driver change was appalling. The benefit of having a route so close to the garage is for easy driver changes yet my SL1 had to terminate as the driver did not come. The next bus came and the driver for that came 3 minutes later, slowly walking to the bus chatting away with someone else. The prior bus then restarted from the garage so the driver must have finally turned up for that one. In that time, there were two quick driver changes for the 34. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 18:38:30 GMT
Arriva in the south of London outside of what I really know but looking on LVF it seems all the extra ES's are not being used now? I think I am right they were only being used at BN because route 64 is not ready for them?
Route 50 seems to have kept the older HVs.
ES27 has now entered service at BN Followed by ES26 which can be tracked on LVF and ES24 which isn't tracking but is running as BN261 between ES31 and ES47 |
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 20, 2024 20:42:41 GMT
Judging by the number of HVs on the 137 tonight, I am presming the N137 is from N tonight? Initial allocation suggests the N137 will be ES allocated tonight. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 21:03:27 GMT
Judging by the number of HVs on the 137 tonight, I am presming the N137 is from N tonight? Initial allocation suggests the N137 will be ES allocated tonight. Looks like the ESs duty patterns have changed, the ones used on the 417 get subbed off pre-evening peak at BN(eg today: ES24 on for ES21, ES29 on for ES39, ES26 on for ES40, ES27 for ES46, the list goes on), then shunted to the tramshed for charging in time to be put out on the 137/N137 linked duties at the end of the evening peaks. Will be interesting to see what happens when TH eventually need their ESs back. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 20, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
Judging by the number of HVs on the 137 tonight, I am presming the N137 is from N tonight? Initial allocation suggests the N137 will be ES allocated tonight. I had a feeling this would happen. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 20, 2024 21:44:39 GMT
Initial allocation suggests the N137 will be ES allocated tonight. Looks like the ESs duty patterns have changed, the ones used on the 417 get subbed off pre-evening peak at BN(eg today: ES24 on for ES21, ES29 on for ES39, ES26 on for ES40, ES27 for ES46, the list goes on), then shunted to the tramshed for charging in time to be put out on the 137/N137 linked duties at the end of the evening peaks. Will be interesting to see what happens when TH eventually need their ESs back. Seems to be using spare vehicles from the 64 allocation rather than subbing them from the 417… |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 21:49:42 GMT
Looks like the ESs duty patterns have changed, the ones used on the 417 get subbed off pre-evening peak at BN(eg today: ES24 on for ES21, ES29 on for ES39, ES26 on for ES40, ES27 for ES46, the list goes on), then shunted to the tramshed for charging in time to be put out on the 137/N137 linked duties at the end of the evening peaks. Will be interesting to see what happens when TH eventually need their ESs back. Seems to be using spare vehicles from the 64 allocation rather than subbing them from the 417… Not sure if you've misinterpreted my comment, but all 4 ESs that are tracking on the 137 right now(not ES29 and ES31 as they are currently being charged in the tramshed), have been through the process I've mentioned. |
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Post by Busboy105 on Jan 20, 2024 22:00:20 GMT
Why doesn't the N137 use LTs?
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 20, 2024 22:02:54 GMT
Seems to be using spare vehicles from the 64 allocation rather than subbing them from the 417… Not sure if you've misinterpreted my comment, but all 4 ESs that are tracking on the 137 right now(not ES29 and ES31 as they are currently being charged in the tramshed), have been through the process I've mentioned. I doubt they were subbed but most definitely finishing buses… the vehicles cannot be fully charged in such a short space of time. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 20, 2024 22:03:31 GMT
Why doesn't the N137 use LTs? The LTs do not have N137 on the blinds. |
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