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Post by dace2 on Jan 29, 2024 18:12:58 GMT
Would make more sense for the DWs on the 144 to come over if anything moves at all from 158. I can certainly see some cheaper tenders over the next few months to effectively off set the fare freeze, suspension of peak fares on Fridays etc and therefore using as many of unallocated hybrids for routes like the W3 so that all 30 HVs off the 243 are still free to reuse on routes such as the 66, 103, 370. Even the HVs from BN could be drafted in on a 3 year contract. Based on the 28 award, the 2013 reg DWs used on the 307 could do a 3 year term starting in 2024. there’s such thing as 3 year contract, since when? i swear contracts last 5 years and get a 2 year extension? it would actually make sense that the 158 use DWs from the 144, since it will fully use DWs, meaning that the 144 will use 6 Ts from the W3, 5 DWs and then the rest of the HVs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2024 18:16:32 GMT
I can certainly see some cheaper tenders over the next few months to effectively off set the fare freeze, suspension of peak fares on Fridays etc and therefore using as many of unallocated hybrids for routes like the W3 so that all 30 HVs off the 243 are still free to reuse on routes such as the 66, 103, 370. Even the HVs from BN could be drafted in on a 3 year contract. Based on the 28 award, the 2013 reg DWs used on the 307 could do a 3 year term starting in 2024. there’s such thing as 3 year contract, since when? i swear contracts last 5 years and get a 2 year extension? A full contract is now 7 years typically EVs, with variable contract lengths for existing NRMs, hybrids and diesels. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 29, 2024 18:44:23 GMT
there’s such thing as 3 year contract, since when? i swear contracts last 5 years and get a 2 year extension? A full contract is now 7 years typically EVs, with variable contract lengths for existing NRMs, hybrids and diesels. The 3 year terms have potentially saved the need for new buses on the 28, 201, 328, 395, 481, 640, E3 when existing buses potentially would have been too old for even a 5 year term. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 29, 2024 20:26:22 GMT
ENX18 appears to be the last 12 reg ENX standing on the 289, with ENX17 subbed this morning which would indicate it has moved to TC.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 30, 2024 0:17:42 GMT
There is nothing in the contract that they cannot be used. The problem is the blinds, I believe only 3 of the mk1 HV's at [AD] have 34 on them. There is NO restrictions on hybrids. In the early days there was one or two T bus odd workings with the yellow blinds of the early ones. The trouble was a sizeable chunk of the 34 drivers were not type trained and it meant being subbed. This also happened a few times on the 102 with the SW's until they ended up having to type train all drivers on the SW I see, someone told me a while ago that the 141 HV's were too old for the 34 contract. I'll have to figure out what the other two buses are for when a 141 driver nicks my late meal relief buses from the garage  Maybe they meant for a new term contract. However, the time the 34 was won, it could have still been won with the Gemini 1's. There is nothing wrong with odd workings and it does happen from time to time, the biggest obstacle is the blinds. The same has happened over at [DX] with the 150 batch of T buses only two or three of them has had inserts to include 175 now. |
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Post by billa on Jan 30, 2024 11:15:48 GMT
I see, someone told me a while ago that the 141 HV's were too old for the 34 contract. I'll have to figure out what the other two buses are for when a 141 driver nicks my late meal relief buses from the garage Maybe they meant for a new term contract. However, the time the 34 was won, it could have still been won with the Gemini 1's. There is nothing wrong with odd workings and it does happen from time to time, the biggest obstacle is the blinds. The same has happened over at [DX] with the 150 batch of T buses only two or three of them has had inserts to include 175 now. I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. |
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Post by Dad91 on Jan 30, 2024 13:31:56 GMT
Maybe they meant for a new term contract. However, the time the 34 was won, it could have still been won with the Gemini 1's. There is nothing wrong with odd workings and it does happen from time to time, the biggest obstacle is the blinds. The same has happened over at [DX] with the 150 batch of T buses only two or three of them has had inserts to include 175 now. I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. to be honest it' looks horrendous while buses worn out of colour. |
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Post by WH241 on Jan 30, 2024 13:33:39 GMT
I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. to be honest it' looks horrendous while buses worn out of colour. I see the buses most weekends and they look like any other bus of a similar age in London. I do wonder why everything is dramatised when it comes to DX buses. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 30, 2024 16:31:13 GMT
Maybe they meant for a new term contract. However, the time the 34 was won, it could have still been won with the Gemini 1's. There is nothing wrong with odd workings and it does happen from time to time, the biggest obstacle is the blinds. The same has happened over at [DX] with the 150 batch of T buses only two or three of them has had inserts to include 175 now. I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. Every garage will suffer with NSB/NBA from time to time, it's not an issue unique to DX. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 30, 2024 16:48:26 GMT
I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. Every garage will suffer with NSB/NBA from time to time, it's not an issue unique to DX. The issue I think being referred to is not the NSBs themselves, but the fact that the branding limits how an NSB can be mitigated. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 30, 2024 17:05:03 GMT
Maybe they meant for a new term contract. However, the time the 34 was won, it could have still been won with the Gemini 1's. There is nothing wrong with odd workings and it does happen from time to time, the biggest obstacle is the blinds. The same has happened over at [DX] with the 150 batch of T buses only two or three of them has had inserts to include 175 now. I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. Why should it matter? Ideally there will be a sufficient number of unbranded buses that can be used flexibly, and if the worst comes to the worst, a branded bus on the wrong route is still better than no bus. Reading Buses seems to manage. |
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 30, 2024 17:06:34 GMT
Every garage will suffer with NSB/NBA from time to time, it's not an issue unique to DX. The issue I think being referred to is not the NSBs themselves, but the fact that the branding limits how an NSB can be mitigated. It shouldn't do. It isn't ideal, but if necessary a branded bus on the wrong route is still better than no bus. Even Reading Buses does it when it has to. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jan 30, 2024 17:26:14 GMT
I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. to be honest it' looks horrendous while buses worn out of colour. I'm currently sat on DW336, which has never seen the inside of a paintshop... bus seems to perform OK (heavy footed driver) though it's looking tired with worn out seats. Think it was originally refurb float bus from the 2020 repaints but never got refurbished itself  |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 30, 2024 18:11:44 GMT
The issue I think being referred to is not the NSBs themselves, but the fact that the branding limits how an NSB can be mitigated. It shouldn't do. It isn't ideal, but if necessary a branded bus on the wrong route is still better than no bus. Even Reading Buses does it when it has to. When RMs were branded for routes it wasn’t uncommon to find buses from another route sneaking out. |
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Post by billa on Jan 30, 2024 23:23:00 GMT
I dont know why we even keep the 150 buses branded. Stagecoach removed the 275 and 167's buses banding years ago. Its very silly that the 175 from time to time suffers with NSB milage, not because there's not any buses in the garage, but because the buses that are there are the 150 T buses. Every garage will suffer with NSB/NBA from time to time, it's not an issue unique to DX. Of course, but what I'm getting at is that reducing the flexibility of which routes certain buses can go on due to something like branding is a silly reason to lose mileage over. |
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