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Post by cl54 on Feb 4, 2024 8:46:01 GMT
Wow so that’s 13 vehicles branded for the SL5 (ENX6-18), for a PVR of 10. I’m really against branding up so many more vehicles than the route’s PVR, must be a nightmare for flexibility and a huge excess of buses that have to sit around idle The more the better as it is fully route branded with less spares more lost mileage. Given the age of the vehicles the spares will probably be needed. The condition of ENX7 yesterday left a lot to be desired. Not very super. |
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Post by DE20106 on Feb 4, 2024 9:32:33 GMT
The more the better as it is fully route branded with less spares more lost mileage. Given the age of the vehicles the spares will probably be needed. The condition of ENX7 yesterday left a lot to be desired. Not very super. I know the ENX’s have been blasted for an SL route, yeah they are getting on a bit. And consequently look a bit rough round the edges from previously being on an extremely busy route. But they’re perfectly acceptable for a very short contract, they’ll only be on it for a year and a bit so it makes sense to use something older. The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 11:00:03 GMT
Given the age of the vehicles the spares will probably be needed. The condition of ENX7 yesterday left a lot to be desired. Not very super. The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 Well, the WVLs are nice buses to ride and in my opinion, provide comfy enough seats for a ride from Croydon to Kingston, would be nice to have headrests though. They rarely break down or cause hassle to the drivers. |
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Post by londonbuses on Feb 4, 2024 11:08:50 GMT
The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 That's probably because, in my opinion, the WVLs are excellent buses and have aged extremely well in comparison to other buses of a similar age. My only issue would be that the interior leaves a lot to be desired, especially the seating, for such a long express route. If I was TfL the X26/SL7 would have been one of the first to get fully high-spec buses (even before the Superloop scheme). It is quite odd that the 213, which runs parallel for a large section of the route, has much more comfortable buses than the express route. |
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Post by VWH1419 on Feb 4, 2024 11:28:13 GMT
The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 Well, the WVLs are nice buses to ride and in my opinion, provide comfy enough seats for a ride from Croydon to Kingston, would be nice to have headrests though. They rarely break down or cause hassle to the drivers. If I had to choose between a particular bus that has withstood mechanical aging vs one that rattles you to death when idle or pulls you apart with bone shaking, I know which I’d choose.😆 Not forgetting other issues outside that ENX7 one. Probably why those WVLs are getting an easy pass on age. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Feb 4, 2024 11:37:52 GMT
The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 That's probably because, in my opinion, the WVLs are excellent buses and have aged extremely well in comparison to other buses of a similar age. My only issue would be that the interior leaves a lot to be desired, especially the seating, for such a long express route. If I was TfL the X26/SL7 would have been one of the first to get fully high-spec buses (even before the Superloop scheme). It is quite odd that the 213, which runs parallel for a large section of the route, has much more comfortable buses than the express route. You have to remember going back to the London Transport days where most companies were ordering new low floor double deckers and they had that HORRID middle staircase whilst other routes kept their existing step entrance buses and then when it came to renewal time between 2002-2005 the step entrance routes ended up with better buses than those with the middle staircases. (Of course you had certain routes that became a dumping ground for them existing buses middle staircase vehicles as other routes were seen as a flagship route so they got the new stuff) |
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Post by HV92 on Feb 4, 2024 12:28:01 GMT
HV78 looks like it’s had a mishap, went past AD yesterday and the front of the roof is caved in, HA1 was parked next to it with missing panels, looks like they will both be off road for a while
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Feb 4, 2024 12:28:24 GMT
That's probably because, in my opinion, the WVLs are excellent buses and have aged extremely well in comparison to other buses of a similar age. My only issue would be that the interior leaves a lot to be desired, especially the seating, for such a long express route. If I was TfL the X26/SL7 would have been one of the first to get fully high-spec buses (even before the Superloop scheme). It is quite odd that the 213, which runs parallel for a large section of the route, has much more comfortable buses than the express route. You have to remember going back to the London Transport days where most companies were ordering new low floor double deckers and they had that HORRID middle staircase whilst other routes kept their existing step entrance buses and then when it came to renewal time between 2002-2005 the step entrance routes ended up with better buses than those with the middle staircases. (Of course you had certain routes that became a dumping ground for them existing buses middle staircase vehicles as other routes were seen as a flagship route so they got the new stuff) But don't all modern buses have middle staircases? |
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Post by MKAY315 on Feb 4, 2024 12:50:37 GMT
You have to remember going back to the London Transport days where most companies were ordering new low floor double deckers and they had that HORRID middle staircase whilst other routes kept their existing step entrance buses and then when it came to renewal time between 2002-2005 the step entrance routes ended up with better buses than those with the middle staircases. (Of course you had certain routes that became a dumping ground for them existing buses middle staircase vehicles as other routes were seen as a flagship route so they got the new stuff) But don't all modern buses have middle staircases? No my friend that got banished around 2000/01. See this example of a middle staircase bus. www.flickr.com/photos/michaelwadman/52403842793/in/photolist-bncG9V-4jgbBo-bxAa5g-iUN8EW-dVWin1-cpttn9-2nQKoJV-2ksSokk-b85SM6-dB8zCi-c5j2a7-avL8pb-9LVXcC |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Feb 4, 2024 13:19:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 16:36:47 GMT
A driver from TC posted that "Only a couple more weeks left with the electrics on the 312 before they get replaced" on the Londoner FB group, is anyone in the know able to provide clarification?
Edit: He has now stated that ENLs from DX will be transferring. I assume it will coincide with route 325 transferring to GAL.
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Post by cl54 on Feb 4, 2024 18:04:42 GMT
Given the age of the vehicles the spares will probably be needed. The condition of ENX7 yesterday left a lot to be desired. Not very super. I know the ENX’s have been blasted for an SL route, yeah they are getting on a bit. And consequently look a bit rough round the edges from previously being on an extremely busy route. But they’re perfectly acceptable for a very short contract, they’ll only be on it for a year and a bit so it makes sense to use something older. The X26’s buses were older for the SL7, I know some comments were made about their age, but nothing like the abuse that has been hurled at the ENXs 😂 ENX7 looked fine yesterday. The problems were the heavy vibrations when idling (and slightly less when in motion) and rattles from various parts of the bus. |
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Post by adl on Feb 4, 2024 18:50:38 GMT
A driver from TC posted that "Only a couple more weeks left with the electrics on the 312 before they get replaced" on the Londoner FB group, is anyone in the know able to provide clarification? Edit: He has now stated that ENLs from DX will be transferring. I assume it will coincide with route 325 transferring to GAL. Is this person a reliable source? Struggling to see an electric route revert to diesel operation, I know the EMCs are awful and unreliable but would TFL really allow this? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 18:53:46 GMT
A driver from TC posted that "Only a couple more weeks left with the electrics on the 312 before they get replaced" on the Londoner FB group, is anyone in the know able to provide clarification? Edit: He has now stated that ENLs from DX will be transferring. I assume it will coincide with route 325 transferring to GAL. Is this person a reliable source? Struggling to see an electric route revert to diesel operation, I know the EMCs are awful and unreliable but would TFL really allow this? Not sure, he posted months ago that the 60 will convert to HV operation once the 133/333 leaves BN but only one HV has made it over. TfL would, they've done it with the 28. |
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Post by PGAT on Feb 4, 2024 19:00:49 GMT
A driver from TC posted that "Only a couple more weeks left with the electrics on the 312 before they get replaced" on the Londoner FB group, is anyone in the know able to provide clarification? Edit: He has now stated that ENLs from DX will be transferring. I assume it will coincide with route 325 transferring to GAL. Is this person a reliable source? Struggling to see an electric route revert to diesel operation, I know the EMCs are awful and unreliable but would TFL really allow this? To have any resemblance of reliability it is kind of necessary |
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