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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 16, 2024 16:44:17 GMT
So SL2 will need 16 HAs, which leaves some but not enough for W3, where could they go instead? Wouldnt surprise me to see one of the DT/DX/GY routes go HA |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 16, 2024 16:56:28 GMT
So SL2 will need 16 HAs, which leaves some but not enough for W3, where could they go instead? Wouldnt surprise me to see one of the DT/DX/GY routes go HA Personally, I would pick a garage that operates both HAs and G3 HVs, so the former can release more of the latter into the spares pool for future tender bids. With those at BN on borrowed time, the only other garage fitting that requirement is AD. So I would move them there. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 16, 2024 17:14:32 GMT
Wouldnt surprise me to see one of the DT/DX/GY routes go HA Personally, I would pick a garage that operates both HAs and G3 HVs, so the former can release more of the latter into the spares pool for future tender bids. With those at BN on borrowed time, the only other garage fitting that requirement is AD. So I would move them there. Move them there for what though? Soon, SL1 won’t need HAs, regardless if lost or retained. |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 16, 2024 17:42:50 GMT
Personally, I would pick a garage that operates both HAs and G3 HVs, so the former can release more of the latter into the spares pool for future tender bids. With those at BN on borrowed time, the only other garage fitting that requirement is AD. So I would move them there. Move them there for what though? Soon, SL1 won’t need HAs, regardless if lost or retained. It would be the 102 if it was to release G3s. |
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Post by billa on Feb 16, 2024 18:25:08 GMT
Move them there for what though? Soon, SL1 won’t need HAs, regardless if lost or retained. It would be the 102 if it was to release G3s. That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Feb 16, 2024 18:45:13 GMT
It would be the 102 if it was to release G3s. That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. |
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Post by billa on Feb 16, 2024 19:07:41 GMT
That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. Makes sense, even if they just sit spare at the garages they could always be used on the occasional shuttle service or rail replacement work like the SW's are. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Feb 16, 2024 19:36:54 GMT
It would be the 102 if it was to release G3s. That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. 4+ every morning!!! Had one of them. Maybe it was HA007. I knew something was up when the driver stopped at a non-SL1 stop, then stopped at the next stop to regulate service, which never happens, particularly two stops in, and then terminated. The bus sat there until the next SL1 turned up. Was not obvious what the issue was as the bus seemed like it was moving fine. The buses do have the best interiors though. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 16, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC |
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Post by WH241 on Feb 16, 2024 20:22:36 GMT
That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. The SL2 is two years and believe it and the SL3 have the potential for 1 year extensions so not that short. |
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Post by billa on Feb 16, 2024 21:06:40 GMT
That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. 4+ every morning!!! Had one of them. Maybe it was HA007. I knew something was up when the driver stopped at a non-SL1 stop, then stopped at the next stop to regulate service, which never happens, particularly two stops in, and then terminated. The bus sat there until the next SL1 turned up. Was not obvious what the issue was as the bus seemed like it was moving fine. The buses do have the best interiors though. Its been half term this week so there has been absolutely no delays other then the odd 175 losing time on diversion, the only thing I've been doing all this week is juggling the SL1 mechanicals. HA7 is one of the worst offenders along with HA4 for going into limp home mode with Red Engine and Oil Pressure light on the dash so you're probably right about which bus you were on. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Feb 16, 2024 22:22:40 GMT
That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC More likely the other way round, there's a good chance the 198 might move to TC, if TH goes fully electric as has been suggested. |
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Post by londonbuses on Feb 16, 2024 22:28:45 GMT
I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC More likely the other way round, there's a good chance the 198 might move to TC, if TH goes fully electric as has been suggested. The 60, 166, 312, 405, 412 and 466 are all up for tender in a few months, so I wouldn't be surprised if one those routes (the 60 would be ideal as it passes TH) was awarded with electrics and swaps garages with the 198. |
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 16, 2024 22:33:40 GMT
That's a good point - not only is the SL1 currently due for retender, but the SL2 is also on a short term contract, so both routes will need the HAs replaced by new electrics relatively soon. Considering this plus any reliability problems, I think it would make sense for any remaining spare HAs to just be split between TC, DX and AD, possibly also with 3 being allocated to the new 627 contract. I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC HAs & HTs are pretty much the same just with different bodywork. |
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Post by dace2 on Feb 16, 2024 22:37:12 GMT
So SL2 will need 16 HAs, which leaves some but not enough for W3, where could they go instead? do you mean 18 or 19 HAs for a PVR of 16? |
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