dace2
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Post by dace2 on Feb 16, 2024 22:38:05 GMT
So SL2 will need 16 HAs, which leaves some but not enough for W3, where could they go instead? I believe plans have changed for the W3 and it's expected to see HV's instead, of course someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that Yes they are getting HVs. 6 have already been refurbished.There will then be 24 HVs. 6 from the 158, 16 from the 242 and 2 from the 50. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 17, 2024 0:45:33 GMT
No vehicles currently tracking on route 248. Thats because they've enabled the new schedules on the Ibus before they're actually due to go in. Same thing happened the day (or it might of been two) before the 253's were cut back to Mornington Crescent. No buses will poll on ibus even on our side. Just on the GPRS map. Whats happening on a technical level is while the running numbers maybe the same the trip numbers dont align with what its expecting so the Ibus goes back into Fallback mode. The 248 is not due a schedule change. I believe it is an ibus problem |
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Post by ADH45258 on Feb 17, 2024 0:50:51 GMT
More likely the other way round, there's a good chance the 198 might move to TC, if TH goes fully electric as has been suggested. The 60, 166, 312, 405, 412 and 466 are all up for tender in a few months, so I wouldn't be surprised if one those routes (the 60 would be ideal as it passes TH) was awarded with electrics and swaps garages with the 198. The 198 moving out would more likely be linked to the 50/194, assuming the plan is still for TH to be 100% electric. |
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Post by londonbuses on Feb 17, 2024 1:00:05 GMT
The 60, 166, 312, 405, 412 and 466 are all up for tender in a few months, so I wouldn't be surprised if one those routes (the 60 would be ideal as it passes TH) was awarded with electrics and swaps garages with the 198. The 198 moving out would more likely be linked to the 50/194, assuming the plan is still for TH to be 100% electric. I believe the 194 and 410 are confirmed to be swapping garages, so the 198 moving out of TH can't be linked to the 194. TC is nearly full now with the SL5, so I don't think the 198 can move in without something moving out. |
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 17, 2024 1:17:35 GMT
I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC HAs & HTs are pretty much the same just with different bodywork. That is true tbf |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 17, 2024 1:40:11 GMT
It would be the 102 if it was to release G3s. That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. The HV's are not that much better at times. Many of them are currently long term off the road due to gearbox and engine problems. Biggest problem hitting Arriva is the lack of spending on maintenance which it appears to now have spread to other companies looking at every measure to tighten the belt as less income is coming in from not being able to meet figures due to TfL, local councils and utility companies screwing up the road network. As you may be aware Arriva are running at a loss, for the first time in years. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Feb 17, 2024 2:56:45 GMT
The 198 moving out would more likely be linked to the 50/194, assuming the plan is still for TH to be 100% electric. I believe the 194 and 410 are confirmed to be swapping garages, so the 198 moving out of TH can't be linked to the 194. TC is nearly full now with the SL5, so I don't think the 198 can move in without something moving out. I think it was announced soon after the 50/194/250/255/289 tender results that TH would become fully electric, i.e. meaning that the 198 would not be able to remain there. However, the SL5 tender result was not yet known at the time, so plans may have changed since. Considering space at TC, the only way I can see this working is if the 410 were to go to N instead. Unless TH just keeps some non-electric routes after all. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Feb 17, 2024 4:09:19 GMT
I wonder if the 627 will move to TH with HAs to have a familiar fleet with 198, rather than introducing another new type at TC. Could still very well stay at TC HAs & HTs are pretty much the same just with different bodywork. The HT's and the HA's slyly remind me of the Northern Counties Palatine 1 and 2. The front was different but the rear was the same. Internally the only difference with the Palatines was upstairs the Stopping sign on the Palatine 1s was on the left (apart from the 341 batch with the dot matrix displays which was strangely in the middle) whereas the Palatine 2s Stopping sign was in the middle. |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 17, 2024 7:26:00 GMT
That wont happen (I hope), the HA's are shocking for reliability, every morning this week I've had 4+ mechanicals on the SL1. With the HV's maybe 4 the entire week, if that lol. Those HA's will be likely cascaded to displace older Diesels. That being said I think AD needs an extra 2 HA's just to compensate for the mechanicals and HA1 being off the road. The HV's are not that much better at times. Many of them are currently long term off the road due to gearbox and engine problems. Biggest problem hitting Arriva is the lack of spending on maintenance which it appears to now have spread to other companies looking at every measure to tighten the belt as less income is coming in from not being able to meet figures due to TfL, local councils and utility companies screwing up the road network. As you may be aware Arriva are running at a loss, for the first time in years. If TfL weren't installing new Virtue Signalling on the Overground and took utility firms to task and raised speed limits, I'm sure that will help. I still wonder where on earth the money goes as they still go begging to central government for more  Sad to see Arriva running at a loss, I guess more operators will be handing back unprofitable routes in future as TfL's demands get more unreasonable  |
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 17, 2024 7:38:23 GMT
The 198 moving out would more likely be linked to the 50/194, assuming the plan is still for TH to be 100% electric. I believe the 194 and 410 are confirmed to be swapping garages, so the 198 moving out of TH can't be linked to the 194. TC is nearly full now with the SL5, so I don't think the 198 can move in without something moving out. Rubbish TC is not nearly full…where did you come up with that conspiracy theory. TC lost the 197 & 264 and gained the 405 & SL5 and has been nowhere near full capacity for a long time now pretty much since the 407 left and even when that was there it was not full. The 50 left TC shortly afterwards. |
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dace2
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Post by dace2 on Feb 17, 2024 7:56:09 GMT
The 198 moving out would more likely be linked to the 50/194, assuming the plan is still for TH to be 100% electric. I believe the 194 and 410 are confirmed to be swapping garages, so the 198 moving out of TH can't be linked to the 194. TC is nearly full now with the SL5, so I don't think the 198 can move in without something moving out. If the 198 was to ever move to TC, it will probably be swapped with the SL5 or 60 as is getting a new contract in a years time. |
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 17, 2024 8:00:02 GMT
I believe the 194 and 410 are confirmed to be swapping garages, so the 198 moving out of TH can't be linked to the 194. TC is nearly full now with the SL5, so I don't think the 198 can move in without something moving out. if the 198 would move to TC, it will probably be swapped with the SL5 or 60 as is getting a new contract in a years time. Well no because if the 50 takes it’s place it will be full… |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 17, 2024 8:04:56 GMT
I might add the 253, 76 and one other route is rumoured to join the 254 at SF aswell 76 is going to SF. I wonder whether route 73 or 253 will eventually join them at SF? These might have been more logical returns to SF than route 254, which would have suited CT fine. |
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 17, 2024 8:06:11 GMT
I wonder whether route 73 or 253 will eventually join them at SF? These might have been more logical returns to SF than route 254, which would have suited CT fine. SF is where the 254 began from. |
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dace2
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Post by dace2 on Feb 17, 2024 8:07:26 GMT
if the 198 would move to TC, it will probably be swapped with the SL5 or 60 as is getting a new contract in a years time. Well no because if the 50 takes it’s place it will be full… 50 is staying in BN. |
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