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Post by george on Aug 14, 2020 21:31:38 GMT
Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. Have they? I think they have been strictly on the 25/425 The loaned buses have made it onto routes 277 which have normal mirrors (the ex-PD/TB/WH loan buses) And routes at WH have had strays of the 277s MMCs which also have normal mirrors Yep they've been on all BW routes now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 21:43:43 GMT
Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. Have they? I think they have been strictly on the 25/425 The loaned buses have made it onto routes 277 which have normal mirrors (the ex-PD/TB/WH loan buses) And routes at WH have had strays of the 277s MMCs which also have normal mirrors 2 are out as we speak on the night element of 277. As others have said the new MMCs have been on all BW routes including LT route 8 and N8.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 14, 2020 21:52:21 GMT
Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. Have they? I think they have been strictly on the 25/425 The loaned buses have made it onto routes 277 which have normal mirrors (the ex-PD/TB/WH loan buses) And routes at WH have had strays of the 277s MMCs which also have normal mirrors They were quite strict initially but now the mirrorless buses have found themselves on the 205 pretty much every day, also in turn you get the 205s buses on the 25 and 425 all the time too.
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 14, 2020 21:56:14 GMT
Have they? I think they have been strictly on the 25/425 The loaned buses have made it onto routes 277 which have normal mirrors (the ex-PD/TB/WH loan buses) And routes at WH have had strays of the 277s MMCs which also have normal mirrors They were quite strict initially but now the mirrorless buses have found themselves on the 205 pretty much every day, also in turn you get the 205s buses on the 25 and 425 all the time too. It's been a year since Croydon received their MMC's and although it took some time at first the appearance of one on the X26 is almost a daily occurrence! They have also strayed on the 202 and 403 recently but annoyingly not the 405
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 14, 2020 21:58:29 GMT
Erm you mean RATP and that could be possible for some HTs to arrive on time but I’m just excited that they can stray on 249 and 468 because those routes has been fully HV since their new contract. They might not stray as I'd imagine the HT's will have the new camera mirror technology so 249 & 468 drivers may not be type trained, certainly not to begin with. Camera mirrors are now standard on TfL's new bus spec as of this year aren't they?
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2020 1:01:55 GMT
They might not stray as I'd imagine the HT's will have the new camera mirror technology so 249 & 468 drivers may not be type trained, certainly not to begin with. Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. But it took a while before they did at Go-Ahead, I just wanted to exercise some caution in any event. N seems to be pretty strict in what goes out as the amount of strays of T's onto the 249 & 468 is extremely minimal or none at all so it could be a real possibility that they don't ever go on either route - BW don't see to be anywhere near as strict
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Post by Ts_As on Aug 15, 2020 1:07:11 GMT
Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. But it took a while before they did at Go-Ahead, I just wanted to exercise some caution in any event. N seems to be pretty strict in what goes out as the amount of strays of T's onto the 249 & 468 is extremely minimal or none at all so it could be a real possibility that they don't ever go on either route - BW don't see to be anywhere near as strict N is only strict because of ULEZ, if ULEZ didn’t happen then you’ll be seeing a little amount of Ts straying on 2, 249 and 468 because of TH. It will most likely be possible for the HTs to stray on 2, 249, 417, 468, N2 and N137 but not 157.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2020 1:40:22 GMT
But it took a while before they did at Go-Ahead, I just wanted to exercise some caution in any event. N seems to be pretty strict in what goes out as the amount of strays of T's onto the 249 & 468 is extremely minimal or none at all so it could be a real possibility that they don't ever go on either route - BW don't see to be anywhere near as strict N is only strict because of ULEZ, if ULEZ didn’t happen then you’ll be seeing a little amount of Ts straying on 2, 249 and 468 because of TH. It will most likely be possible for the HTs to stray on 2, 249, 417, 468, N2 and N137 but not 157. The ULEZ emission zone has nothing to do with the 249 - the 249 hits the border of the green corridor and green corridors only require buses to be Euro VI diesel at minimum so it doesn't have anything to do with that. I purposely didn't mention the 2 due to it running inside the ULEZ & not sure what TH has to do with the 468 - N could run a T as far as Camberwell Green on the 468 without incurring any fines because it isn't in the ULEZ. The T's can run on the 249's full routing and the vast majority of the 468's routing.
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Post by Ts_As on Aug 15, 2020 3:13:56 GMT
N is only strict because of ULEZ, if ULEZ didn’t happen then you’ll be seeing a little amount of Ts straying on 2, 249 and 468 because of TH. It will most likely be possible for the HTs to stray on 2, 249, 417, 468, N2 and N137 but not 157. The ULEZ emission zone has nothing to do with the 249 - the 249 hits the border of the green corridor and green corridors only require buses to be Euro VI diesel at minimum so it doesn't have anything to do with that. I purposely didn't mention the 2 due to it running inside the ULEZ & not sure what TH has to do with the 468 - N could run a T as far as Camberwell Green on the 468 without incurring any fines because it isn't in the ULEZ. The T's can run on the 249's full routing and the vast majority of the 468's routing. Yes I understand that 249 is not apart of the ULEZ and 468 is all I’m just saying is that comparing to 417’s PVR and TH’s usage on the Ts if 249 was allowed to use Ts then it wouldn’t be that much straying on the route everyday and I still want to know why N is strict with 249
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 15, 2020 3:25:04 GMT
The ULEZ emission zone has nothing to do with the 249 - the 249 hits the border of the green corridor and green corridors only require buses to be Euro VI diesel at minimum so it doesn't have anything to do with that. I purposely didn't mention the 2 due to it running inside the ULEZ & not sure what TH has to do with the 468 - N could run a T as far as Camberwell Green on the 468 without incurring any fines because it isn't in the ULEZ. The T's can run on the 249's full routing and the vast majority of the 468's routing. Yes I understand that 249 is not apart of the ULEZ and 468 is all I’m just saying is that comparing to 417’s PVR and TH’s usage on the Ts if 249 was allowed to use Ts then it wouldn’t be that much straying on the route everyday and I still want to know why N is strict with 249 I have always assumed rightly or wrongly, the 249 is not on the N based Ts blinds.
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Post by TB123 on Aug 15, 2020 8:30:26 GMT
Just seen a photo on Facebook from the ADL factory, visible in the background is what appears to be one of the new HTs. It's not the clearest shot but definitely a London spec ultracap E400.
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 15, 2020 10:03:52 GMT
Who knows didn't take long for the BW ones to stray. But it took a while before they did at Go-Ahead, I just wanted to exercise some caution in any event. N seems to be pretty strict in what goes out as the amount of strays of T's onto the 249 & 468 is extremely minimal or none at all so it could be a real possibility that they don't ever go on either route - BW don't see to be anywhere near as strict The T’s don’t have the blinds for the 249 and 468 either so there’s next to no chance of one straying
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Post by TB123 on Aug 15, 2020 10:15:53 GMT
But it took a while before they did at Go-Ahead, I just wanted to exercise some caution in any event. N seems to be pretty strict in what goes out as the amount of strays of T's onto the 249 & 468 is extremely minimal or none at all so it could be a real possibility that they don't ever go on either route - BW don't see to be anywhere near as strict The T’s don’t have the blinds for the 249 and 468 either so there’s next to no chance of one straying 468 isn't able to use the Ts either because of the ULEZ. Shame, I like those Ts.
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Post by Ts_As on Aug 15, 2020 10:38:09 GMT
Just seen a photo on Facebook from the ADL factory, visible in the background is what appears to be one of the new HTs. It's not the clearest shot but definitely a London spec ultracap E400. Ooo nice to hear
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 15, 2020 11:01:59 GMT
Just seen a photo on Facebook from the ADL factory, visible in the background is what appears to be one of the new HTs. It's not the clearest shot but definitely a London spec ultracap E400. Out of curiousity, Falkirk or Scarborough?
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