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Post by MKAY315 on May 24, 2024 20:45:51 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore I don’t think the whole tender process needs restructuring. The reason for these routes getting handed back is just due to outside circumstances (massively inflated costs). Capitalomnibus posted a very interesting letter from Stagecoach yesterday explaining the handing back of the 55 and 56. Once they’ve been re tendered with realigned (ie much higher) costs to cover running the route there shouldn’t be any need to hand them back again any time soon. Unless another massive inflation surge is coming round the corner again (hopefully not!!) And that's exactly why it needs to be restructured. It was eventually going to catch up one way or another |
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Post by dace2 on May 24, 2024 22:09:34 GMT
DW322 is randomly withdrawn. Any reason
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Post by darz on May 25, 2024 16:51:06 GMT
Arriva better be planning to electrify N
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on May 25, 2024 17:16:04 GMT
Arriva better be planning to electrify N Why? The 63regs will be fine for a 3 year term and there would be no other reason to electrify N. If 45 or 118 were won, they'd go into BN. 68 uses LTs. 468 has compliant vehicles. Route 196 would be the only reason to electrify N if won. |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 25, 2024 18:18:51 GMT
Arriva better be planning to electrify N Why? The 63regs will be fine for a 3 year term and there would be no other reason to electrify N. If 45 or 118 were won, they'd go into BN. 68 uses LTs. 468 has compliant vehicles. Route 196 would be the only reason to electrify N if won. Even if the 63reg are too old, Arriva could still use newer existing hybrids. HVs spare from the 34/41/243/341 will likely cover the 329 and GY/DX routes, but that still leaves the ex-SL1 HAs spare. And Norwood garage are already familiar with the similar HTs on the 202. However I could still see Arriva bid with electrics for the 432 if they want to get N wired up in advance of the 196/SL6 tender results. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on May 25, 2024 18:31:07 GMT
Why? The 63regs will be fine for a 3 year term and there would be no other reason to electrify N. If 45 or 118 were won, they'd go into BN. 68 uses LTs. 468 has compliant vehicles. Route 196 would be the only reason to electrify N if won. Even if the 63reg are too old, Arriva could still use newer existing hybrids. HVs spare from the 34/41/243/341 will likely cover the 329 and GY/DX routes, but that still leaves the ex-SL1 HAs spare. And Norwood garage are already familiar with the similar HTs on the 202. However I could still see Arriva bid with electrics for the 432 if they want to get N wired up in advance of the 196/SL6 tender results. The 432's tender result will likely come out after the 196 and SL6 results. |
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Post by SILENCED on May 25, 2024 18:35:55 GMT
Why? The 63regs will be fine for a 3 year term and there would be no other reason to electrify N. If 45 or 118 were won, they'd go into BN. 68 uses LTs. 468 has compliant vehicles. Route 196 would be the only reason to electrify N if won. Even if the 63reg are too old, Arriva could still use newer existing hybrids. HVs spare from the 34/41/243/341 will likely cover the 329 and GY/DX routes, but that still leaves the ex-SL1 HAs spare. And Norwood garage are already familiar with the similar HTs on the 202. However I could still see Arriva bid with electrics for the 432 if they want to get N wired up in advance of the 196/SL6 tender results. Lots of unsafe assumptions in that statement. I would not want to predict which routes will get HVs and HAs |
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Post by greenboy on May 25, 2024 18:40:21 GMT
Why? The 63regs will be fine for a 3 year term and there would be no other reason to electrify N. If 45 or 118 were won, they'd go into BN. 68 uses LTs. 468 has compliant vehicles. Route 196 would be the only reason to electrify N if won. Even if the 63reg are too old, Arriva could still use newer existing hybrids. HVs spare from the 34/41/243/341 will likely cover the 329 and GY/DX routes, but that still leaves the ex-SL1 HAs spare. And Norwood garage are already familiar with the similar HTs on the 202. However I could still see Arriva bid with electrics for the 432 if they want to get N wired up in advance of the 196/SL6 tender results. I doubt they would wire up Norwood for a three year contract? Wouldn't the buses already on the 432 be OK? |
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Post by cybermike137 on May 25, 2024 20:04:12 GMT
A few things to mention here, the other day I saw T187 getting brand new blinds installed. They were rolling the rear blinds and I saw 612 then 689, not 663. I then saw today T190 half showing Croydon and the one above it Thornton Heath Clock Tower.
They have been working on the electrification of TH all day today which may mean they will be working the weekend to get it finished.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on May 25, 2024 20:38:13 GMT
A few things to mention here, the other day I saw T187 getting brand new blinds installed. They were rolling the rear blinds and I saw 612 then 689, not 663. I then saw today T190 half showing Croydon and the one above it Thornton Heath Clock Tower. They have been working on the electrification of TH all day today which may mean they will be working the weekend to get it finished. It’s about time buses were blinded for 612. Everyday I see a random T coming back to TH displaying Blank to Selsdon. I assume in the mornings the blind is either blank blank or blank, Wallington |
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Post by PGAT on May 25, 2024 20:49:08 GMT
The 2 and 249 were both retained at N with existing vehicles so I imagine the 432 and 468 would do the same
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Post by cybermike137 on May 25, 2024 20:56:49 GMT
A few things to mention here, the other day I saw T187 getting brand new blinds installed. They were rolling the rear blinds and I saw 612 then 689, not 663. I then saw today T190 half showing Croydon and the one above it Thornton Heath Clock Tower. They have been working on the electrification of TH all day today which may mean they will be working the weekend to get it finished. It’s about time buses were blinded for 612. Everyday I see a random T coming back to TH displaying Blank to Selsdon. I assume in the mornings the blind is either blank blank or blank, Wallington When I did the 612, I just showed Wallington |
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Post by gka472l on May 27, 2024 16:36:01 GMT
I've seen a report elsewhere that apparently 3 of the Streetdecks (SW2/3/4) have appeared at Arriva Merseyside's St Helens depot....not seen any pics or viewed them myself.
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Post by greenboy on May 27, 2024 16:50:01 GMT
A few things to mention here, the other day I saw T187 getting brand new blinds installed. They were rolling the rear blinds and I saw 612 then 689, not 663. I then saw today T190 half showing Croydon and the one above it Thornton Heath Clock Tower. They have been working on the electrification of TH all day today which may mean they will be working the weekend to get it finished. It’s about time buses were blinded for 612. Everyday I see a random T coming back to TH displaying Blank to Selsdon. I assume in the mornings the blind is either blank blank or blank, Wallington I know and it's ridiculous that operators are allowed to get away with such standards. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 27, 2024 17:00:15 GMT
It’s about time buses were blinded for 612. Everyday I see a random T coming back to TH displaying Blank to Selsdon. I assume in the mornings the blind is either blank blank or blank, Wallington I know and it's ridiculous that operators are allowed to get away with such standards. I know especially as the 412 operates in the area aswell that could cause confusion. |
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