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Post by capitalomnibus on May 23, 2024 23:32:03 GMT
I imagine DX would transfer the blinds from the current Ts and DWs. It would look so cool if they did that. The current allocation is manual blinded and won’t be suitable for power blinded buses so I hope this does not happen not to mention DX & GY blinds are not exactly the best a lot of ripped examples, I’m looking forward to the hybrids coming to the routes hopefully will sort the issue we currently have of buses turning up all with all sorts of blinds, the 103 of is by far the worst offender for the blinds . In fact personal want here but I hope newer examples are moved from outer garages since so many Ts and DWs are becoming free to oust the 59 reg DWs as they are always going mechanical I love how nippy the 59 reg are by they are certainly experiencing much more mechanical issues recently and power blinded blinds should already be on order as the new contract will see power blinded buses so they can easily transfer these to the hybrids when they become free but I can’t see hybrids arriving until halfway through the Romford route contracts seeing how slow electric conversions are right now. I recon we are at least looking at late 2025 before hybrids cascade. Be careful what you wish for. The DW's hardly lose much mechanical mileage and are not that long of the road, unless it is something serious. Compare this with many of the hybrids that has a lot of hybrid drive or other electrical problems that can render them off the road for weeks, then it is a difference |
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 23, 2024 23:33:32 GMT
Do all the Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini 2 Volvo B5LHs at WN have the blinds for the 221? I have seen photos of Gemini 2,HVs on the 221 but they were blinded the person who took them said the not all the Gemini 2 HVs have blinds for the 221 is that true? They should, it is only the Gemini 3 that has taken some of the W3 T bus dayglow blinds whilst others are delivered. |
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Post by vjaska on May 23, 2024 23:40:40 GMT
They are hammered every day and are 15 years old, so not suprising, They just have to keep them going until the hybrids start to arrive in summer If I’m honest I think that’s being a bit optimistic, electric conversion takes quite some time currently wouldn’t be expecting a conversion until at least 2025. 307 had taken she’s to convert, the 279 hasn’t began conversion and no signs of its buses, the 64 hasn’t converted due to infrastructure, the 417 was delayed. Depends what you mean by delayed regarding the 417. Outside of Go-Ahead, very few routes have converted on day one of the contract barring a few like the 306 & C3 (under Abellio) for example. The 417 converted within a couple of months of it's contract starting and unlike elsewhere, the 417 has been pretty much consistently ES allocated every since. |
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Post by LK65EBO on May 24, 2024 16:41:16 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025
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Post by MKAY315 on May 24, 2024 16:43:01 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025 Oh boy. DT 11 the plot thickens. |
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Post by MKAY315 on May 24, 2024 16:45:50 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore
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Post by WH241 on May 24, 2024 16:50:36 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore Think TfL better get ready to set up a in house North East South West Thames Buses or NESW Buses  |
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Post by ADH45258 on May 24, 2024 16:51:15 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025 Interesting both this and the 335 have been handed back, when both routes were previously bid for using the same batch of HVs. I can't see the 335 being kept, but I expect Arriva will retain the 432, particularly with limited garage space at other operators. But will likely need something newer than the current 63reg HVs - maybe could use the 65reg HAs from the SL1? |
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Post by MKAY315 on May 24, 2024 16:52:32 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore Think TfL better get ready to set up a in house North East South West Thames Buses or NESW Buses 😂 It's like every week another route has had its terms ripped up. |
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Post by SILENCED on May 24, 2024 17:03:56 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025 Interesting both this and the 335 have been handed back, when both routes were previously bid for using the same batch of HVs. I can't see the 335 being kept, but I expect Arriva will retain the 432, particularly with limited garage space at other operators. But will likely need something newer than the current 63reg HVs - maybe could use the 65reg HAs from the SL1? I can see the big TC batch going all electric and the 432 operated with the HTs from the 405, maybe topped up with a G3 or 2 ... maybe awards will be about same time now. |
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Post by sp17 on May 24, 2024 17:13:11 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore Think TfL better get ready to set up a in house North East South West Thames Buses or NESW Buses That’s the long term plan…forced closures and surrenders on the grounds of unsustainability and economic climate. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on May 24, 2024 17:20:09 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025 How? Was that not a 7 year contract (the first one iirc) which would have a break clause in 2026, not 2025. Same would apply for routes like the 111/322/13/204. |
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 24, 2024 17:35:17 GMT
The contract for route 432 will now be terminating at 4 April 2025 How? Was that not a 7 year contract (the first one iirc) which would have a break clause in 2026, not 2025. Same would apply for routes like the 111/322/13/204. 432 was never awarded on a 7 year contract. It was the then normal 5 years with a possible 2 year extension depending on performance. The 7 year contracts came into effect with route contracts commencing from the 2022/23 Tendering Programme. The 432 was in the 2021/22 programme and was not included. So the 13 was the first fixed 7 year contract. |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on May 24, 2024 18:27:03 GMT
How? Was that not a 7 year contract (the first one iirc) which would have a break clause in 2026, not 2025. Same would apply for routes like the 111/322/13/204. 432 was never awarded on a 7 year contract. It was the then normal 5 years with a possible 2 year extension depending on performance. The 7 year contracts came into effect with route contracts commencing from the 2022/23 Tendering Programme. The 432 was in the 2021/22 programme and was not included. So the 13 was the first fixed 7 year contract. Thank you for clarifying that! |
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Post by DE20106 on May 24, 2024 18:50:16 GMT
At this rate most of the routes in London should have their contracts terminated and a full restructure of the tender process needs to be reinitiated because these terms are seriously not sustainable anymore I don’t think the whole tender process needs restructuring. The reason for these routes getting handed back is just due to outside circumstances (massively inflated costs). Capitalomnibus posted a very interesting letter from Stagecoach yesterday explaining the handing back of the 55 and 56. Once they’ve been re tendered with realigned (ie much higher) costs to cover running the route there shouldn’t be any need to hand them back again any time soon. Unless another massive inflation surge is coming round the corner again (hopefully not!!) |
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