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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 16, 2024 19:39:45 GMT
I don’t think long lead times are too much of an issue for these routes. I imagine the reason why these routes haven’t had confirmed orders is because of the garages not being ready to accommodate them. An order of electroliners has possibly been placed but they can probably go right back to the queue, it’s unlikely Arriva will be able to store all those vehicles to best to just take delivery of them when they can go straight into service. With the 150 and 175 dependent on getting their hybrids when they’re ready to be released from the aforementioned routes getting their electrics, it’s possible that the outgoing diesels could end up serving a significant portion of the 3 year 150/175 contracts! Surely the ex 333 HVs could be used on the 150/175 until more hybrids are free as surely not all of the HV's at BN are being used/needed with some of the existing T's and DW's being used as spares. Or they might prioritise some electrics to get as many hybrids free for DX There's no need for Arriva to alter their current fleet plans just to get DX hybrids quicker, the routes are retains so there can be a delay to the routes getting their buses.
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Post by 365tohaveringpark on Jun 16, 2024 19:50:52 GMT
Surely the ex 333 HVs could be used on the 150/175 until more hybrids are free as surely not all of the HV's at BN are being used/needed with some of the existing T's and DW's being used as spares. Or they might prioritise some electrics to get as many hybrids free for DX There's no need for Arriva to alter their current fleet plans just to get DX hybrids quicker, the routes are retains so there can be a delay to the routes getting their buses. I guess so but we never know...
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 16, 2024 20:08:54 GMT
I don’t think long lead times are too much of an issue for these routes. I imagine the reason why these routes haven’t had confirmed orders is because of the garages not being ready to accommodate them. An order of electroliners has possibly been placed but they can probably go right back to the queue, it’s unlikely Arriva will be able to store all those vehicles to best to just take delivery of them when they can go straight into service. With the 150 and 175 dependent on getting their hybrids when they’re ready to be released from the aforementioned routes getting their electrics, it’s possible that the outgoing diesels could end up serving a significant portion of the 3 year 150/175 contracts! Surely the ex 333 HVs could be used on the 150/175 until more hybrids are free as surely not all of the HV's at BN are being used/needed with some of the existing T's and DW's being used as spares. Or they might prioritise some electrics to get as many hybrids free for DX A lot of those HVs have been withdrawn…
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Post by vjaska on Jun 16, 2024 21:15:44 GMT
Surely the ex 333 HVs could be used on the 150/175 until more hybrids are free as surely not all of the HV's at BN are being used/needed with some of the existing T's and DW's being used as spares. Or they might prioritise some electrics to get as many hybrids free for DX A lot of those HVs have been withdrawn… And, pedantically speaking, they were 133 HV's rather than the 333's which was never officially HV operated.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Jun 16, 2024 21:17:44 GMT
HV57-59 Out on 259
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Post by sp17 on Jun 16, 2024 22:56:34 GMT
It is genuine, a few are built. Apparently it was being tested going to another facility. Arriva should get a nice discount on that vehicle. They won’t; it will just get fixed and delivered once done.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 16, 2024 22:59:30 GMT
Arriva should get a nice discount on that vehicle. They won’t; it will just get fixed and delivered once done. But it won't be as good as new, there will have been damaged. If you were buying a car that had been damaged, would you accept it. I certainly wouldn't, unless I got a discount. You never know what is bent or out of alignment. You spend thousands on a new car, you something that is delivered perfect, not nearly perfect.
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Post by yunus on Jun 16, 2024 23:08:40 GMT
Why are the older Hybrids being moved to EC? I have lost track of the date the N279 moves to E!
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Post by COBO on Jun 16, 2024 23:28:34 GMT
I guess the HVs from EC will be going to WN for the remainder of the W3s allocation.
It looks like a few DWs from E have gone to EC.
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Post by COBO on Jun 16, 2024 23:33:49 GMT
Why are the older Hybrids being moved to EC? I have lost track of the date the N279 moves to E! I guess to release the Gemini 3 HVs to be moved elsewhere and I presume that they are going to WN for the rest of W3s allocation.
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 17, 2024 4:37:00 GMT
Why are the older Hybrids being moved to EC? I have lost track of the date the N279 moves to E! I guess to release the Gemini 3 HVs to be moved elsewhere and I presume that they are going to WN for the rest of W3s allocation. HV202 should shift T220 from the W3, one more to go
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Post by dace2 on Jun 17, 2024 7:04:00 GMT
I guess to release the Gemini 3 HVs to be moved elsewhere and I presume that they are going to WN for the rest of W3s allocation. HV202 should shift T220 from the W3, one more to go It's fully done with all the transfer. W3 converted fully HV yesterday with the 158 converting fully Saturday.
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Post by londonbuses184 on Jun 17, 2024 7:18:57 GMT
As I predicted HV201-HV206 has finished off the W3 hybrid allocation and the DWs from the 307 also going to EC for the 158 which I also predicted. The Gemini 2 HVs going to EC has come from nowhere though. Maybe EC want to keep a hybrid allocation for the 158? Idk.
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 17, 2024 7:20:32 GMT
As I predicted HV201-HV206 has finished off the W3 hybrid allocation and the DWs from the 307 also going to EC for the 158 which I also predicted. The Gemini 2 HVs going to EC has come from nowhere though. Maybe EC want to keep a hybrid allocation for the 158? Idk. I'm not sure why they need the G2 HVs, as EC now have 28 DWs (so enough for the 158's full allocation)
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 17, 2024 7:46:28 GMT
As I predicted HV201-HV206 has finished off the W3 hybrid allocation and the DWs from the 307 also going to EC for the 158 which I also predicted. The Gemini 2 HVs going to EC has come from nowhere though. Maybe EC want to keep a hybrid allocation for the 158? Idk. The DWs haven’t moved from the 307 though, so your prediction is incorrect. We’ve actually seen HVs from the 102 and 133 move instead.
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