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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 28, 2024 22:20:41 GMT
Happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the ones with the versatile displays that say ‘x minutes to a station’ are Hanover, like on Abellio Electroliner and GAL Ee’s. There was a dodgy one that on a GAL Ee was stuck on like a start up screen with the Hanover logo. The ones for example on the Stagecoach Metroline and Arriva Electroliners are definitely Mobitec. When the Stagecoach ones were dodgy to start with they said ‘McKenna brothers’ on them at some point. The exterior and interior screens tend to come in a pair. If the bus has Hanover screens on the outside then it has Hanover iBus screens on the inside, vice versa with Mobitecs. The only batch of vehicles I can think of where they have different ones are the TUK BYDs with the Mobitecs on the outer screens, but with those advanced Hanover interior screens. The rest match iirc I don't believe that it's the case where the external and internal ones have to match. They are both procured separately. There are multiple Abellio buses which have advanced internal displays but the external can be either Hanover or Mobitec. The actual programme setting is done by the operator which is why they all differ by operator instead of bus and external display type. |
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 28, 2024 22:23:33 GMT
Happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the ones with the versatile displays that say ‘x minutes to a station’ are Hanover, like on Abellio Electroliner and GAL Ee’s. There was a dodgy one that on a GAL Ee was stuck on like a start up screen with the Hanover logo. The ones for example on the Stagecoach Metroline and Arriva Electroliners are definitely Mobitec. When the Stagecoach ones were dodgy to start with they said ‘McKenna brothers’ on them at some point. The exterior and interior screens tend to come in a pair. If the bus has Hanover screens on the outside then it has Hanover iBus screens on the inside, vice versa with Mobitecs. The only batch of vehicles I can think of where they have different ones are the TUK BYDs with the Mobitecs on the outer screens, but with those advanced Hanover interior screens. The rest match iirc I don't believe that it's the case where the external and internal ones have to match. They are both procured separately. The actual programme setting is done by the operator which is why they all differ by operator instead of bus and external display type. Edited my first post  the versatile screens with the more advanced route info are made by a company called Navaho  |
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 28, 2024 22:45:07 GMT
That is true, the new PIS displays have been nothing but terrible in most cases, with inconsistent information, I've noticed the audio announcements tend to now fail along with the displays, with the gibberish mash up of stop names providing no helpful information alongside blank displays I got on a 64 last week ES151 it just displayed 64 New Addington and nothing else… Even today I saw a 157 to Anerley Station pulled into the stand still showing 157 to Crystal Palace on the screen. That may have been the one I got on. Did it have two red bars at the top and bottom with a black middle section that said McKenna Brothers? |
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 28, 2024 22:48:09 GMT
I got on a 64 last week ES151 it just displayed 64 New Addington and nothing else… Even today I saw a 157 to Anerley Station pulled into the stand still showing 157 to Crystal Palace on the screen. That may have been the one I got on. Did it have two red bars at the top and bottom with a black middle section that said McKenna Brothers? This was what displayed and whenever the Bell was pushed it would show a Red Stop. Attachments:
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 28, 2024 23:30:36 GMT
That may have been the one I got on. Did it have two red bars at the top and bottom with a black middle section that said McKenna Brothers? This was what displayed and whenever the Bell was pushed it would show a Red Stop. I was downstairs ... the screen is different shaped down there .... so might have been a different 24-reg ES |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2024 2:06:45 GMT
I checked ES89 blinds, surprisingly no TH routes apart from 198 and it also has Norwood routes 😂 including 196 and 202 It is disappointing in this hi-tech age, you can not get all the garages destinations in one unit. Menu before selecting route, gives you chance to select garage. Also be just a single configuration file to change control. I believe you can, just restricted and what is uploaded onto the various control units. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2024 2:07:30 GMT
They are only human at of the day and we can all make mistakes. Both errors were corrected within a few hours. Londonbusroutes and TfL are also guilty of making mistakes. LOTS have been making small changes in recent TLB issues which makes things easier to read especially the transfers and tender awards. I never forgave Londonbusroutes for saying DWs were coming to the 242 in 2003, when it was DLAs instead I am slowly letting go of the disappointment 21 years on  Well in some way they did get the newer DW as in the DB300 in 2009, so they were ahead of time  |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 29, 2024 2:11:21 GMT
Good point however could potentially slow the system down. Someone uploaded the wrong USB to those buses and can be sorted out in no time. I do prefer the Smart blind’s selection system where you select a route and find the destinations for that route this new system has everything in one large pool. General question for anyone in the know, could/will the new control units be integrated into the iBus 2 system with automatic syncing to trips (with a manual override just in case) or would that be too complex? There is no reason why it couldnt, although not all the things that would happen with ibus 2 has come out, and some things proposed probably would end up being dropped. After the cyber attack, TfL would be now even more cautious over anything that can create a backdoor method into the network or servers |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Sept 29, 2024 20:29:11 GMT
I don't believe any of the interior screens are Hanover Screens, they're all Mobitec which would explain their shocking reliability (but interestingly, weren't the old dot matrix ones Hanover displays?) I'll also have to take a hard disagree there on the old screens, they are certainly antiquated and are completely inadequate for the job with the information that is now available to display. If iBus has the ability to tell people on the bus the arrival times of the trains at a station the bus is approaching then it should. This very much makes the old iBus screens broken as they do not display information that is now expected as a necessity. I'd probably even go as far as saying that there should be a 2008 style push to actively replace all the old dot matrix screens on buses. Happy to be corrected, but pretty sure the ones with the versatile displays that say ‘x minutes to a station’ are Hanover, like on Abellio Electroliner and GAL Ee’s. There was a dodgy one that on a GAL Ee was stuck on like a start up screen with the Hanover logo. The ones for example on the Stagecoach Metroline and Arriva Electroliners are definitely Mobitec. When the Stagecoach ones were dodgy to start with they said ‘McKenna brothers’ on them at some point. The exterior and interior screens tend to come in a pair. If the bus has Hanover screens on the outside then it has Hanover iBus screens on the inside, vice versa with Mobitecs. The only batch of vehicles I can think of where they have different ones are the TUK BYDs with the Mobitecs on the outer screens, but with those advanced Hanover interior screens. The rest match iirc EDIT: My first statement is incorrect. These new more advanced screens found on GALs buses are actually by a company called ‘Navaho’, as seen by this faulty screen on a TUK Kite (not my video) youtube.com/shorts/IHWmuU0--vs?si=dKGEWnn5QuMaTbQ3 … the fault I referred to further up was on the S2 back in March, SEe307 was brand new and the iBus screen was displaying this fault NAVAHO is awful. Kowloon Motor Bus in Hong Kong had them for external destination displays (or 'blinds') on two demonstrator buses, they pretty much never worked. Ended up being replaced by regular Hanover electronic blinds. |
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Post by DW221 on Sept 30, 2024 4:17:31 GMT
DW219 transferred from Grays to Edmonton… interesting loan / transfer for sure… makes sense since theres quite a few vor ex TH Ts… this is probably the fastest bus the 217 will use under Arriva so far haha
EDIT: T207 & T212 have transferred to GY, appears to be a swap between the two garages
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 30, 2024 7:34:30 GMT
At the moment on the 217 is
DW225 - EC1
DW219 - EC3
DW210 - EC4
On the 370
T220 - GY1
T207 - GY4
T205 - GY8
T212 - GY11
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Post by adl on Sept 30, 2024 11:01:12 GMT
Interesting I wonder if when the 279 goes electric if it’s Ts end up at GY alongside the 17 from EC. Looks like they are cherry picking the best ones from the batch to give to the 217 and I guess could withdraw the rest.
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Post by adl on Sept 30, 2024 16:27:13 GMT
Currently on T205, it has a crack on the upper deck window left hand corner where a tree or something has hit it, not sure it this was on the 370 today or whether it was transferred like it but there are various cracks int the corner, hopefully something doesn’t hit the window as I can see it smashing.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 30, 2024 16:37:53 GMT
Currently on T205, it has a crack on the upper deck window left hand corner where a tree or something has hit it, not sure it this was on the 370 today or whether it was transferred like it but there are various cracks int the corner, hopefully something doesn’t hit the window as I can see it smashing. I would inform the driver about it, potentially dangerous. |
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 30, 2024 16:44:54 GMT
At the moment on the 217 is DW225 - EC1 DW219 - EC3 DW210 - EC4 What are 217 buses doing in these central London postcodes?  |
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the versatile screens with the more advanced route info are made by a company called Navaho 
