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Post by dace2 on Oct 2, 2024 19:58:27 GMT
Surely before it was used for 259 to crosslink with N279 as HV201-206 transferred for W3. Right now, they're just spares.
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Post by dace2 on Oct 2, 2024 19:59:51 GMT
Kites! Is actually tall for a single decker but the Electroliner will still be taller.
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Post by adl on Oct 2, 2024 20:41:52 GMT
I'm surprised Dagenham, Ford Works is even a displayingy on the Arriva DWs considering it's Ford Works terminus has been gone for a long time it was got rid of during it's Stagecoach tenure with the route cut back to Dagenham, New Road. The odd 175 still passes with Ford Works blinds brings back memories and nostalgia.
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Post by atb123 on Oct 2, 2024 20:42:32 GMT
Surely before it was used for 259 to crosslink with N279 as HV201-206 transferred for W3. Right now, they're just spares. It was and still makes appearances on 259 time to time. Currently spares now which regularly go 123/158/259/217
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Post by yunus on Oct 2, 2024 20:46:38 GMT
Surely before it was used for 259 to crosslink with N279 as HV201-206 transferred for W3. Right now, they're just spares. It was and still makes appearances on 259 time to time. Currently spares now which regularly go 123/158/259/217 Small correction - the 158 rarely sees HVs these days.
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Post by DW221 on Oct 2, 2024 21:06:33 GMT
Overall time will tell. It also appears T221 & DW244 may have swapped garages now too 244 was on Underground replacement work today Definitely at EC as it was used with the rest of the 217 allocation
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 2, 2024 21:13:46 GMT
DW212 back on the on on 66s after half a year VOR!… Didnt think it would actually return but here we are Along with HV95, which is on the 144 and returned yesterday on the 29. That had an engine problem. Had a minor rebuild, barely lasted a few days, before it seized up and failed to start and could not even be turned over manually.
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Post by RM1_Enthusiast on Oct 2, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
Along with HV95, which is on the 144 and returned yesterday on the 29. That had an engine problem. Had a minor rebuild, barely lasted a few days, before it seized up and failed to start and could not even be turned over manually. For which VOR bus? As there is 2 mentioned!
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 3, 2024 2:33:10 GMT
244 was on Underground replacement work today Definitely at EC as it was used with the rest of the 217 allocation I noticed EC were using more of the ex 64 allocation today, so I assume most of the better ex WN Ts are swapping over?
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Post by DW221 on Oct 3, 2024 2:39:17 GMT
Definitely at EC as it was used with the rest of the 217 allocation I noticed EC were using more of the ex 64 allocation today, so I assume most of the better ex WN Ts are swapping over? Yes thats looking like the plan, GY will not be recieving the ex 64 batch, only the LJ61s which improves the blinds on the 103s in praticular and theyre just quicker than the LJ10/LJ60s anyway (allbeit not much but they are still an improvement) I think personally theyd be even more unreliable than the DWs at GY currently if they came. Theyre more often off the road than in service since TH maintained them so poorly. Will be interesting to see if the 217 copes if majority of the ex W3 Ts move to GY.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 3, 2024 3:52:56 GMT
I noticed EC were using more of the ex 64 allocation today, so I assume most of the better ex WN Ts are swapping over? Yes thats looking like the plan, GY will not be recieving the ex 64 batch, only the LJ61s which improves the blinds on the 103s in praticular and theyre just quicker than the LJ10/LJ60s anyway (allbeit not much but they are still an improvement) I think personally theyd be even more unreliable than the DWs at GY currently if they came. Theyre more often off the road than in service since TH maintained them so poorly. Will be interesting to see if the 217 copes if majority of the ex W3 Ts move to GY. The route should be OK, as there's more than enough native DWs at EC for the 158. Perhaps less dead run thrash will help the ex GY DWs as well. They have done well for their age. 15 year old buses ran at high speeds will run into problems but EC have more maintenance facilities. There were a few DWs knocking about EC that had been withdrawn like DW408 so I'm sure there's spares that can be picked When that batch of 2 series DWs came out, someone said the engines are fairly similar to the Ts as a variant of Cummins units. The W3 Ts have rarely been thrashed, so there should be plenty of life in them yet
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Post by DW221 on Oct 3, 2024 3:56:58 GMT
Yes thats looking like the plan, GY will not be recieving the ex 64 batch, only the LJ61s which improves the blinds on the 103s in praticular and theyre just quicker than the LJ10/LJ60s anyway (allbeit not much but they are still an improvement) I think personally theyd be even more unreliable than the DWs at GY currently if they came. Theyre more often off the road than in service since TH maintained them so poorly. Will be interesting to see if the 217 copes if majority of the ex W3 Ts move to GY. The route should be OK, as there's more than enough native DWs at EC for the 158. Perhaps less dead run thrash will help the ex GY DWs as well. They have done well for their age. 15 year old buses ran at high speeds will run into problems but EC have more maintenance facilities. There were a few DWs knocking about EC that had been withdrawn like DW408 so I'm sure there's spares that can be picked Oh yes 100% although I think its both a combination of in service & dead run mileage, ive gotten 66 drivers doing more than 50 with some DWs, even with a couple that are limp so theyve clearly still got some something going for them. I will say EC maintainence certainly isnt bad ethier, theyve improved the W3 Ts ever so slightly The W3 Ts havent ever really been thrashed that much while on the route its just mainly Alexandria Palace hillclimbs that have made them slower.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 3, 2024 4:21:03 GMT
The route should be OK, as there's more than enough native DWs at EC for the 158. Perhaps less dead run thrash will help the ex GY DWs as well. They have done well for their age. 15 year old buses ran at high speeds will run into problems but EC have more maintenance facilities. There were a few DWs knocking about EC that had been withdrawn like DW408 so I'm sure there's spares that can be picked Oh yes 100% although I think its both a combination of in service & dead run mileage, ive gotten 66 drivers doing more than 50 with some DWs, even with a couple that are limp so theyve clearly still got some something going for them. I will say EC maintainence certainly isnt bad ethier, theyve improved the W3 Ts ever so slightly The W3 Ts havent ever really been thrashed that much while on the route its just mainly Alexandria Palace hillclimbs that have made them slower. They must be preparing the DWs as it's a mix of ex BN HV's and ex TH stuff so far on the 217. I think the hill climbs (plus slowing for speed bumps on the hills at Ally Pally where the bus may not reach 20 before having to slow down, lots of 20 zones, would lead to clogged DPFs and performance issues. On the faster 66, shouldn't be too much of an issue. BTW the 279 ones have been on a lot of fast roads on the 313 so should be fine if they move over as well depends on when the electrics will start on the 279, which is taking forever
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Post by DW221 on Oct 3, 2024 4:37:19 GMT
Yes thats looking like the plan, GY will not be recieving the ex 64 batch, only the LJ61s which improves the blinds on the 103s in praticular and theyre just quicker than the LJ10/LJ60s anyway (allbeit not much but they are still an improvement) I think personally theyd be even more unreliable than the DWs at GY currently if they came. Theyre more often off the road than in service since TH maintained them so poorly. Will be interesting to see if the 217 copes if majority of the ex W3 Ts move to GY. The route should be OK, as there's more than enough native DWs at EC for the 158. Perhaps less dead run thrash will help the ex GY DWs as well. They have done well for their age. 15 year old buses ran at high speeds will run into problems but EC have more maintenance facilities. There were a few DWs knocking about EC that had been withdrawn like DW408 so I'm sure there's spares that can be picked When that batch of 2 series DWs came out, someone said the engines are fairly similar to the Ts as a variant of Cummins units. The W3 Ts have rarely been thrashed, so there should be plenty of life in them yet Now speaking of 158s stuff one of its buses DW503 is now on the 217!
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Post by DW221 on Oct 3, 2024 4:38:25 GMT
Oh yes 100% although I think its both a combination of in service & dead run mileage, ive gotten 66 drivers doing more than 50 with some DWs, even with a couple that are limp so theyve clearly still got some something going for them. I will say EC maintainence certainly isnt bad ethier, theyve improved the W3 Ts ever so slightly The W3 Ts havent ever really been thrashed that much while on the route its just mainly Alexandria Palace hillclimbs that have made them slower. They must be preparing the DWs as it's a mix of ex BN HV's and ex TH stuff so far on the 217. I think the hill climbs (plus slowing for speed bumps on the hills at Ally Pally where the bus may not reach 20 before having to slow down, lots of 20 zones, would lead to clogged DPFs and performance issues. On the faster 66, shouldn't be too much of an issue. BTW the 279 ones have been on a lot of fast roads on the 313 so should be fine if they move over as well depends on when the electrics will start on the 279, which is taking forever Really wouldnt mind the 279 Ts coming over, yes I much prefer the DWs but these arent bad ethier. At least would be allocated to better routes rather than the busy & long 279 all the time
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