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Post by DT 11 on Feb 27, 2021 19:46:46 GMT
Ontop of the Abellio Order RATP 107 BYD City's For Route 49, 183, 65, 281,371 & X140 22 BYD E200MMCs (BE37041-62) For FW 24 BYD E200MMCs (BME27001-24) For SO Stagecoach London: 25 BYD City's For 160/660/180 GAL 19 BYD E400 City's (Ee50-69) For Route 69 17 BYD E400 City's (Ee70-86) For Route 13 I know everyone wants Tower to lose the 13, but Go Ahead must be feeling confident of a win out of SW Why do so many want Tower Transit to loose the 13 so badly? Haven’t they already lost enough at X?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 27, 2021 20:05:10 GMT
I know everyone wants Tower to lose the 13, but Go Ahead must be feeling confident of a win out of SW Why do so many want Tower Transit to loose the 13 so badly? Haven’t they already lost enough at X? Certainly do agree they've lost enough, however I think the 13 is now at a case where its operation is so terrible that an operator change is probably required. Honestly has to be one of the consistently poor routes I've seen and I don't think it's even arguable at all that it doesn't operate to a decent standard. I do think Tower do stand a decent chance at retaining it though, the high PVR and the amount of existing Tower have, alongside quite ideal garage placement means they stand a very good fighting chance. I think that route has just reached a stage now where its service is genuinely really poor and it's a case of the public having a chance of a better service rather than just having Tower retain work. No matter how poor a company's tender performance is, a poorly operated route needs to be sorted out for the public interest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 20:14:11 GMT
Stagecoach London: 25 BYD City's For 160/660/180 Does anyone know what would be the split between the 160/660 at TL and the 180 for PD? and 25 E400 EV's on order is sightly lower than expected on the basis of 180 having 7 hybrids with rest of them being new electrics for a PVR of 17, unless more existing hybrids are planned to be allocated to the 180 than originally planned. This months TLB suggests only half the allocation will be Electric the rest being Hybrids.
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Post by CustomTransport277 on Feb 27, 2021 20:51:10 GMT
I know everyone wants Tower to lose the 13, but Go Ahead must be feeling confident of a win out of SW Why do so many want Tower Transit to loose the 13 so badly? Haven’t they already lost enough at X? I don't, but I potentially have Metroline winning the 13, since they operated the previous route no. quite well and that I feel TT operating this route, is just really poor and difficult. If the 13 is lost anyway, I have a feeling that some of the MVs could either be transferred to Lea Interchange (LI) and give the 58 a full hybrid conversion, with the rest of the allocation staying at Westbourne Park (X) and be used on any route that wins TT from another company in 2022, e.g. 295.
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 27, 2021 21:36:44 GMT
Why do so many want Tower Transit to loose the 13 so badly? Haven’t they already lost enough at X? I don't, but I potentially have Metroline winning the 13, since they operated the previous route no. quite well and that I feel TT operating this route, is just really poor and difficult. If the 13 is lost anyway, I have a feeling that some of the MVs could either be transferred to Lea Interchange (LI) and give the 58 a full hybrid conversion, with the rest of the allocation staying at Westbourne Park (X) and be used on any route that wins TT from another company in 2022, e.g. 295. However Metroline isn’t the only operator that could take it. Tower Transit could retain it or other firms such as Arriva or Go Ahead London could get it.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 27, 2021 22:47:19 GMT
Stagecoach London: 25 BYD City's For 160/660/180 Does anyone know what would be the split between the 160/660 at TL and the 180 for PD? and 25 E400 EV's on order is sightly lower than expected on the basis of 180 having 7 hybrids with rest of them being new electrics for a PVR of 17, unless more existing hybrids are planned to be allocated to the 180 than originally planned. They could order 11 electrics and leave the 180 with one spare which leaves 14 for the 160/660
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Post by snowman on Feb 28, 2021 4:36:34 GMT
However Metroline isn’t the only operator that could take it. Tower Transit could retain it or other firms such as Arriva or Go Ahead London could get it. Wood Green could operate the 13, a bit of a dead run and may require infrastructure improvements for electrics, or depending on space, GAL is the other most likely. Why are people discussing and speculating route 13 in new buses on order thread, can people please respect the thread title
Posters can delete any misposting by going into the setting (cogwheel) top right and selecting delete
Reference and Information threads should not be used to speculation
Rant over
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Post by dashing0ne on Feb 28, 2021 8:04:49 GMT
There's space at RP but no where near enough to house the 13. Lots of space at Stamford Brook for a shuffle if required. 220 or 266 could move to V to free space at RP to get the 13 or move something from LS to RP and send the 13 to LS, but yes this thread isn't the right place, that is it on the topic. Or 220 to JE...
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 28, 2021 9:46:10 GMT
Wood Green could operate the 13, a bit of a dead run and may require infrastructure improvements for electrics, or depending on space, GAL is the other most likely. Why are people discussing and speculating route 13 in new buses on order thread, can people please respect the thread title
Posters can delete any misposting by going into the setting (cogwheel) top right and selecting delete
Reference and Information threads should not be used to speculation
Rant overYou have a point, however putting things in red comes across as rude. Reminds me of teachers marking school work...
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Mar 2, 2021 15:31:17 GMT
This post and the post above will be updated continuously. Thanks to ilovelondonbuses it was nice working with you.
Keys
"^^" Means currently entering service/currently being delivered "**" Details are uncertain, may use buses from other routes instead
Route Number of buses due Fleet Codes Contract starting date Vehicle Type
Metroline
Route 7/N7, (20 buses), WHD2708-WHD2727, TBC Date, Wright StreetDeck FCEV 10.9m^^
Route PB1, (1 bus), OEM2728, TBC Date, Switch Mobility MetroCity EV
RATP London
Route 49, (16 buses), BCE47085-BCE47101, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 65/N65, (31 buses), BCE47030-BCE47059, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 125, (19 buses), fleet codes TBC, 29 January 2022, vehicle type TBC
Route 183, (27 buses), BCE47102-BCE47128, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 235, (23 buses), fleet codes TBC, 8 January 2022, vehicle type TBC
Route 281, (22 buses), BCE47060-BCE47081, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 290, (8 buses), BE37074-BE37081, 2 October 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 200 EV
Route 371, (14 buses), BE37041-BE37053, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 200 EV
Route 371, (2 buses), BCE47082-BCE47083, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 398, (5 buses), BME27001-BME27005, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.2m / Enviro 200 EV
Route H9/H10, (19 buses), BME27006-BME27024, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.2m / Enviro 200 EV
Route X140, (11 buses), BCE47129-BCE47139, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Stagecoach London
Route 160/660, (TBC buses), fleet codes TBC, 18 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 173, (19 buses), 14101-14120, 17 October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Route 174, (27 buses), 14121-14147, October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Route 180, (TBC buses), fleet codes TBC, 2 October 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 673, (1 bus), 14048, 17 October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Tower Transit
Route 23, (27 buses), OE34011-OE34037, 25 July 2020, Optare MetroDecker EV 10.5m^^
Additional Information: ^^ - 6 WHDs are present at PV, awaiting installation of hydrogen infrastructure.
Just to say, I can't read the white text because I am in the Arriva Livery mode.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Mar 2, 2021 15:34:44 GMT
Lots of space at Stamford Brook for a shuffle if required. 220 or 266 could move to V to free space at RP to get the 13 or move something from LS to RP and send the 13 to LS, but yes this thread isn't the right place, that is it on the topic. Or 220 to JE...
Where's LS bus garage?
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Post by LK65EBO on Mar 2, 2021 15:52:16 GMT
This post and the post above will be updated continuously. Thanks to ilovelondonbuses it was nice working with you.
Keys
Just to say, I can't read the white text because I am in the Arriva Livery mode. You're saying you cannot read any of it?
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 2, 2021 15:56:01 GMT
Just to say, I can't read the white text because I am in the Arriva Livery mode. You're saying you cannot read any of it? He won't do as Arriva theme has a white background and your post explicitly defines white text ... so white on white can't be read. Why not leave it as default text colour, which changes with the themes?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 2, 2021 15:56:02 GMT
This post and the post above will be updated continuously. Thanks to ilovelondonbuses it was nice working with you.
Keys
"^^" Means currently entering service/currently being delivered "**" Details are uncertain, may use buses from other routes instead
Route Number of buses due Fleet Codes Contract starting date Vehicle Type
Metroline
Route 7/N7, (20 buses), WHD2708-WHD2727, TBC Date, Wright StreetDeck FCEV 10.9m^^
Route PB1, (1 bus), OEM2728, TBC Date, Switch Mobility MetroCity EV
RATP London
Route 49, (16 buses), BCE47085-BCE47101, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 65/N65, (31 buses), BCE47030-BCE47059, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 125, (19 buses), fleet codes TBC, 29 January 2022, vehicle type TBC
Route 183, (27 buses), BCE47102-BCE47128, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 235, (23 buses), fleet codes TBC, 8 January 2022, vehicle type TBC
Route 281, (22 buses), BCE47060-BCE47081, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 290, (8 buses), BE37074-BE37081, 2 October 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 200 EV
Route 371, (14 buses), BE37041-BE37053, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 200 EV
Route 371, (2 buses), BCE47082-BCE47083, 3 July 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 398, (5 buses), BME27001-BME27005, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.2m / Enviro 200 EV
Route H9/H10, (19 buses), BME27006-BME27024, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.2m / Enviro 200 EV
Route X140, (11 buses), BCE47129-BCE47139, 4 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Stagecoach London
Route 160/660, (TBC buses), fleet codes TBC, 18 September 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 173, (19 buses), 14101-14120, 17 October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Route 174, (27 buses), 14121-14147, October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Route 180, (TBC buses), fleet codes TBC, 2 October 2021, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV
Route 673, (1 bus), 14048, 17 October 2020, BYD 10.9m / Enviro 400 City EV^^
Tower Transit
Route 23, (27 buses), OE34011-OE34037, 25 July 2020, Optare MetroDecker EV 10.5m^^
Additional Information: ^^ - 6 WHDs are present at PV, awaiting installation of hydrogen infrastructure.
Just to say, I can't read the white text because I am in the Arriva Livery mode. It might help in that case copying and pasting it into a word document and changing the text colour
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Post by kmkcheng on Mar 2, 2021 19:55:18 GMT
220 or 266 could move to V to free space at RP to get the 13 or move something from LS to RP and send the 13 to LS, but yes this thread isn't the right place, that is it on the topic. Or 220 to JE...
Where's LS bus garage? They mean London Sovereign, which means they are talking about BT (Edgware)
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