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Post by vjaska on Jul 13, 2022 14:23:19 GMT
I do it funny how you think it's solely Khan's fault in all of this and that the DfT are saints? I have no idea why you trying to pick all my posts apart but do find it mildly amusing. I am allowed my own views but seems if they go against the majority that’s somehow wrong on the forum. But I'm not picking on all your posts - your thinking that way because suddenly, you've developed an issue with me of your own accord when I've repeatedly told you there is no issue from my end. The irony with this is you wrote a post only earlier today that I agreed with to the point I gave it a like (there was another one the other day too) so this already disapproves your point. The thing your confusing here is this notion of, "your allowed your own views but seems if they go against the majority that’s somehow wrong on the forum". No one has said that to you yet the minute I or certain others on here don't agree with you on something, this is what you throw out here constantly. No one is going to agree with anyone all of the time and unless you accept that and stop this paranoia and take what is said at face value, your always going to think that way and sadly, you'll be the who loses out accusing people like me of something that's false.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 13, 2022 14:25:24 GMT
I do it funny how you think it's solely Khan's fault in all of this and that the DfT are saints? Don't think either of us are trying to apportion blame on this occasion, just exposing a politician that threatens something, then does not do it. DfT know his threats are baseless now, so the threats do not work. If TfL want to try and get the upper hand in these negotiations, they need a new strategy. Its like Khan does not want a settlement so he can just keep up the female dogin! No but it's rather a skewed conversation when the faults of all involved are not picked out but conveniently time and again it's Khan's that are. I don't like Khan one bit nor did I vote for him both times but I don't slander one side unless it's absolutely necessary and generally, most times it isn't. If accountability only falls on one side, then we all lose in the long run.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 13, 2022 14:43:24 GMT
Don't think either of us are trying to apportion blame on this occasion, just exposing a politician that threatens something, then does not do it. DfT know his threats are baseless now, so the threats do not work. If TfL want to try and get the upper hand in these negotiations, they need a new strategy. Its like Khan does not want a settlement so he can just keep up the female dogin! No but it's rather a skewed conversation when the faults of all involved are not picked out but conveniently time and again it's Khan's that are. I don't like Khan one bit nor did I vote for him both times but I don't slander one side unless it's absolutely necessary and generally, most times it isn't. If accountability only falls on one side, then we all lose in the long run. Khan is the one that wants this deal, Khan is the one that needs this deal. Kahn is the one make threats he won't carry out. DfT don't need this deal, it not an organisation they control that is in a financial mess. Khan is the Mayor of London, he controls the organisation in a financial hole, he is the one that needs to negotiate and try harder. Stop being so antagonist to those you want help from might be a good starter. No other region is getting or expecting to get the level of support TfL is expecting.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 13, 2022 14:48:09 GMT
Kahn honestly can’t be this deluded. He needs to stop the bullshit rhetoric and instruct TfL to work constructively with Grant Shapps and the DfT. Likewise the DfT/Shapps need to realise that if the mountain won’t come to Mohammed then Mohammed must go to the mountain.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 13, 2022 14:59:45 GMT
Don't think either of us are trying to apportion blame on this occasion, just exposing a politician that threatens something, then does not do it. DfT know his threats are baseless now, so the threats do not work. If TfL want to try and get the upper hand in these negotiations, they need a new strategy. Its like Khan does not want a settlement so he can just keep up the female dogin! No but it's rather a skewed conversation when the faults of all involved are not picked out but conveniently time and again it's Khan's that are. I don't like Khan one bit nor did I vote for him both times but I don't slander one side unless it's absolutely necessary and generally, most times it isn't. If accountability only falls on one side, then we all lose in the long run. Except in the case the slander is warranted as it isn’t Shapps or the DfT consistently threatening or spilling out rhetoric to embarrass the other side. Kahns posts and articles are all designed to push blame away from TfL which is just wrong. The DfT aren’t the ones out begging for a long term deal. Kahn is showing his complete ineptitude on this issue especially when the DfT has supported TfL with covid fares recovery, bailout after bailout whilst Kahn has failed to do anything but complain. He acts like a toddler that wants more and is throwing a tantrum when the parent says no. Is it the banks fault if a business fails if they have been provided loan extensions and additional funding to save the business? Not really, it falls on the head of that company, so why should Kahn get to share the blame, his business, his fault it’s failing.
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Post by snowman on Jul 13, 2022 20:14:08 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 14, 2022 9:05:39 GMT
Does anyone know what conditions TfL have signed up to and are not meeting?
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Post by snowman on Jul 14, 2022 10:50:24 GMT
Does anyone know what conditions TfL have signed up to and are not meeting? You need to look at the 25th February settlement letter. There are things like where is money coming from for the pay rise. Presumably mayor hasn't explained it to TfL, so TfL are unable to tell DfT, so DfT say the condition of explaining isn't met www.gov.uk/government/publications/transport-for-london-settlement-letter
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Post by snowman on Jul 19, 2022 18:06:32 GMT
TfLBoard meeting papers for next weeks meeting are now available The Annual Accounts have a material uncertainty depending on funding (which will be updated at Board meeting) 4.4 On 24 June 2022, the current extraordinary funding and financing agreement between TfL and the DfT was extended until 13 July 2022. A further extension was then agreed on 13 July 2022 to 28 July 2022. These recent extensions have not been reflected in the TfL Statement of Accounts due to the late stage at which they were agreed and the ongoing discussions on longer term funding. 4.8 Given the materiality of further funding to TfL’s going concern status, the Statement of Accounts will be updated following agreement of funding beyond 28 July 2022 board.tfl.gov.uk/documents/s18353/board-20220727-item07a-tfl-statement-accounts.pdf
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 19, 2022 18:58:28 GMT
TfLBoard meeting papers for next weeks meeting are now available The Annual Accounts have a material uncertainty depending on funding (which will be updated at Board meeting) 4.4 On 24 June 2022, the current extraordinary funding and financing agreement between TfL and the DfT was extended until 13 July 2022. A further extension was then agreed on 13 July 2022 to 28 July 2022. These recent extensions have not been reflected in the TfL Statement of Accounts due to the late stage at which they were agreed and the ongoing discussions on longer term funding. 4.8 Given the materiality of further funding to TfL’s going concern status, the Statement of Accounts will be updated following agreement of funding beyond 28 July 2022 board.tfl.gov.uk/documents/s18353/board-20220727-item07a-tfl-statement-accounts.pdfThe obvious issue now I see is I can't see any long term funding agreement until September. It's increasingly likely that the next Prime Minister wants completely nothing to do with Boris Johnson and his way of governing. This could mean that Shapps is removed from the position of Transport Secretary to another job in the cabinet, or removed from the Tory front bench completely. Therefore I'd be very surprised if this isn't dealt with by the next transport secretary.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 19, 2022 19:12:53 GMT
TfLBoard meeting papers for next weeks meeting are now available The Annual Accounts have a material uncertainty depending on funding (which will be updated at Board meeting) 4.4 On 24 June 2022, the current extraordinary funding and financing agreement between TfL and the DfT was extended until 13 July 2022. A further extension was then agreed on 13 July 2022 to 28 July 2022. These recent extensions have not been reflected in the TfL Statement of Accounts due to the late stage at which they were agreed and the ongoing discussions on longer term funding. 4.8 Given the materiality of further funding to TfL’s going concern status, the Statement of Accounts will be updated following agreement of funding beyond 28 July 2022 board.tfl.gov.uk/documents/s18353/board-20220727-item07a-tfl-statement-accounts.pdfThe obvious issue now I see is I can't see any long term funding agreement until September. It's increasingly likely that the next Prime Minister wants completely nothing to do with Boris Johnson and his way of governing. This could mean that Shapps is removed from the position of Transport Secretary to another job in the cabinet, or removed from the Tory front bench completely. Therefore I'd be very surprised if this isn't dealt with by the next transport secretary. Hopefully, that means a PM who actually gives a toss about London rather than using it as an axe to grind in relation to "levelling up" but I know I'm asking for too much here
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Post by yunus on Jul 22, 2022 21:20:35 GMT
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Post by Busboy105 on Jul 22, 2022 22:57:57 GMT
Decent offer. The Mayor should just accept
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Post by ronnie on Jul 22, 2022 23:31:25 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2022 9:15:22 GMT
Will Norman seemingly has an endless pot of cash for anything related to cycling.
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