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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2020 12:53:34 GMT
I believe the C3 will be the first ever route which has been awarded to Tower Transit, and lost by Abellio. 328 could be doing the same but other way, just waiting for tender release. No it was the 452. I wouldn’t rule out the 414 either... |
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Post by george on Aug 1, 2020 12:54:40 GMT
I believe the C3 will be the first ever route which has been awarded to Tower Transit, and lost by Abellio. 328 could be doing the same but other way, just waiting for tender release. No it was the 452. I wouldn’t rule out the 414 either... They could end up getting the 49 from Abellio as well but think that's it for now. Maybe in the future the 159 but that's not up for tender so too early to speak about that route. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 1, 2020 12:54:42 GMT
The 28 and 31 started off with Mercedes minibuses as well, but I don’t think it counts as the allocation at the time of conversion was dual door Marshall’s Although they didn't start off with MAs, they were RM prior to MA conversion, they are other examples of former minibus routes now double-deck. Route U4 started off with MAs in 1989 but has since been double-decked. Actually route U4 does have a distinction of its own. It was among the routes involved in the First to Metroline sale in 2013. It has, uniquely so far among those routes, been converted from First vehicles to Metroline vehicles then back to First vehicles! (Ex-First TN/TP to Metroline VP to ex-First DN/TE). The U4 technically has stayed with ex First vehicles since First took over Centrewest as the VP allocation it had under Metroline wasn't a full one and was still supplemented by ex First TE's, some of which are still there on the route now. The next contract should be the first time the U4 won't use ex First vehicles regardless of who will be running it. |
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2020 12:59:41 GMT
No it was the 452. I wouldn’t rule out the 414 either... They could end up getting the 49 from Abellio as well but think that's it for now. Maybe in the future the 159 but that's not up for tender so too early to speak about that route. The 27/N27 207/N207 345 from X are also possible. The 205 is probably the only route that (ELBG) Stagecoach East London have won from Metroline. |
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Post by kmkcheng on Aug 1, 2020 13:24:15 GMT
The 205 is probably the only route that (ELBG) Stagecoach East London have won from Metroline. In the other direction, I think the 30 is the only former Stagecoach route that is operated by Metroline. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 13:49:57 GMT
I’m pretty sure one can see horses on the 372 as well On the 96, there is a farm on Upper Wickham Lane which has some horses, there was also an old ALX400 there, but it’s gone now. On the old routing before it was diverted to Darent Valley, there was a large swathe of farmland which had many animals. The eastbound 53 also passes the deer enclosure at Greenwich Park. Around the Yarnton Way roundabout, there will often be horses too. Oh god, don't even get me started on the horses. I've got too many stories about them from driving the 180. 🙈 For anyone unfamiliar with the area, the gipsy's have a little camp in the industrial estate at Belvedere and they ride up and down Yarnton Way on their horses (often even two side by side obstructing all traffic). I remember one of them being killed while riding down the spine road - you have to be very thick though to ride a horse down a 50mph road. |
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Post by BK15AZR on Aug 1, 2020 17:51:29 GMT
132/422/486 - the largest group of routes sharing exactly the same termini both sides (but with different routings)
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 1, 2020 19:49:43 GMT
I would take a guess and say Streatham to Brixton probably qualifies as having most routes run the same route between two town centres. Off the top of my head there's the 109, 118, 133, 159, 250 and 333.
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2020 19:54:24 GMT
I would take a guess and say Streatham to Brixton probably qualifies as having most routes run the same route between two town centres. Off the top of my head there's the 109, 118, 133, 159, 250 and 333. Lewisham Centre to Catford Centre 47 54 75 136 185 199 208 |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 1, 2020 20:06:15 GMT
Before the 25 hacking it was possible to get from Ilford to Edgware by changing only 1 bus through 2 different ways:
- 25 + 113
- 123 + 221
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Post by rif153 on Aug 1, 2020 20:06:51 GMT
No it was the 452. I wouldn’t rule out the 414 either... They could end up getting the 49 from Abellio as well but think that's it for now. Maybe in the future the 159 but that's not up for tender so too early to speak about that route. Unlikely but they could even shock us all and win the 332... |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Aug 1, 2020 20:12:15 GMT
They could end up getting the 49 from Abellio as well but think that's it for now. Maybe in the future the 159 but that's not up for tender so too early to speak about that route. Unlikely but they could even shock us all and win the 332... Wouldn't at all doubt that. Changeovers could well be done at Paddington using the H&C or Circle. |
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Post by COBO on Aug 1, 2020 20:55:21 GMT
The 107 and 331 are the only routes that exit TfL land and go back into it.
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Post by TB123 on Aug 1, 2020 21:02:38 GMT
The 107 and 331 are the only routes that exit TfL land and go back into it. As well as the 166, 275 and 467 (school trip) |
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Post by ronnie on Aug 1, 2020 21:03:40 GMT
It’s possible to start your day in Penge, take the 176 to Waterloo, then the 76 to seven sisters, then the 476 to stoke newington, then the 276 to newham General hospital and then the 376 to beckton bus station
Probably the only set where this is possible
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