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Post by borneobus on Oct 3, 2024 8:11:57 GMT
By my reckoning there are 27 x 90 degree turns on the 394...is there a route with more...K5 perhaps??!
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 3, 2024 8:48:24 GMT
Always wondered if the 66 , a route with the majority of it along a straight dual carriageway might have been numbered with the famous American route 66 in mind. Route 99 in both directions serves Slade Green Station twice, serving each side of the station. Nothing particularly unusual there, but between the two station stops are four intermediate stops,in both directions. If you were to walk between the two station stops the way the bus goes, that's a fair walk, twenty minutes probably. Any other route with more intermediate stops between serving a station twice on one journey? If you cross the railway bridge you can be on the other side of Slade Green in two minutes. In fact passengers have complained about buses regulating at Forest Road/Slade Green Station to then get off at the other side of Slade Green which is much quicker to Walk than sit on the bus how I know this is because someone asked me how long I’m waiting for and told me I want to go to Slade Green Station, I said this is Slade Green Station… he said I want to go to Whitehall Lane to get the 428… I said it’s quicker to cross the bridge bus is waiting here for 3 minutes it’s school holidays and bus is well early I shouldn’t even be here yet… then starts telling me I'm making him late so just ignored him after that because he was making a fool of himself and other passengers were laughing…
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Post by Volvo on Oct 3, 2024 9:16:25 GMT
I know this is because someone asked me how long I’m waiting for and told me I want to go to Slade Green Station, I said this is Slade Green Station… he said I want to go to Whitehall Lane to get the 428… I said it’s quicker to cross the bridge bus is waiting here for 3 minutes it’s school holidays and bus is well early I shouldn’t even be here yet… then starts telling me I'm making him late so just ignored him after that because he was making a fool of himself and other passengers were laughing… The amount of times I have had passengers say this to me on the 125s. Buses leaving Winchmore Hill between 0550-0640 ish have an excessive amount of running time. You are given 1 HR 17-19 mins for a trip that really takes around 55-58 mins!! Depending on your leader etc you could spend alot of time crawling around and sitting at every 2nd or 3rd stop for 2/3 mins up until Finchley Central. If you even depart 5 minutes late from WH you would arrive at Southgate Station approx 2 early!! Then if you were to carry on by Hampden Square you are now around 6 early, if you carried onto Whetstone Griffin your now 10 early!! So if you have a slow leader for example and your trying to maintain your 5 bar headway. Your then having passengers tell you, your making them late etc and I'm like if I'm early and should be like 2 stops back how can I be the one making you late? Surely you should have got the bus Infront no? (Providing your not the 0550 first bus out of WH). The maths is not mathing. This leads me onto the punctuality of alot of passengers especially on the 125 & 226 in general, most of them are always late and running for the bus and your already late. I do the same duties on all routes so I always see the same faces and even running 2 mins late on the 226 for example between 0440 - 0630 to facilitate these people, they are still always late. Sometimes I be doing same duty 3 days in a row and the same people running for the bus 3 days in a row and your 2 minutes late? Delaying me further as I'm having to wait for you to run to the bus, get on search for your oyster etc before I can move off. You could easily lose 30 secs - 1 minute doing this snow imagine when your getting multiple people doing this? You already don't have alot of running time or stand time on the 226 that early in the morning, made worse when you have temporary lights and diversions all the time. Used to happen on the 251 alot aswell I remember doing the same duty 3 days in a row last August, I was the first bus out of AG so I departed the first stop 2 late and yet still on Oakleigh road north one stop before Russell Lane, this woman came running from across the road each time delaying me even further and you only get 7 mins stand at Edgware. It's beyond annoying, I can accept someone being late one day for example but how can you be late 3 days in a row? If I was running on time or just 1 minute late in all these instances, it's 20 minutes wait for the next bus!
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 3, 2024 10:14:38 GMT
Always wondered if the 66 , a route with the majority of it along a straight dual carriageway might have been numbered with the famous American route 66 in mind. Route 99 in both directions serves Slade Green Station twice, serving each side of the station. Nothing particularly unusual there, but between the two station stops are four intermediate stops,in both directions. If you were to walk between the two station stops the way the bus goes, that's a fair walk, twenty minutes probably. Any other route with more intermediate stops between serving a station twice on one journey? If you cross the railway bridge you can be on the other side of Slade Green in two minutes. In fact passengers have complained about buses regulating at Forest Road/Slade Green Station to then get off at the other side of Slade Green which is much quicker to Walk than sit on the bus how I know this is because someone asked me how long I’m waiting for and told me I want to go to Slade Green Station, I said this is Slade Green Station… he said I want to go to Whitehall Lane to get the 428… I said it’s quicker to cross the bridge bus is waiting here for 3 minutes it’s school holidays and bus is well early I shouldn’t even be here yet… then starts telling me I'm making him late so just ignored him after that because he was making a fool of himself and other passengers were laughing… The H9/H10 serves both sides of Northwick Park station. The H10 has a couple of stops in between but the H9 does a tour of the borough of Harrow as it goes through Harrow town centre, South Harrow, Rayners Lane, Wealdstone and Kenton. Just outside of London, the 346, 346A, R16 and R17 serves both sides of 2 stations, Carpenters Park and Bushey. There are quite a lot of intermediate stops in between. I have attached a map of all those routes
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Oct 3, 2024 19:43:18 GMT
The 381 contains three bus stops that include the name of a country: Canada Water Bus Station Russia Dock Road Jamaica Road / Abbey Street Four actually - there is Canada Street which is one stop before/after Canada Water Bus Station.
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Post by LK65EBO on Oct 5, 2024 10:17:14 GMT
The 698 is the only route to have seen both the SRM and New Routemaster. Adding to this, it has also seen the ADL equivalent which is the Enviro400City.
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Post by ronnie on Oct 5, 2024 13:57:51 GMT
Better example is 21 finishing on the A21 That one is brilliant! To add to this, the A21 also runs through the A1 and A3. Only the A7 is missing
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 5, 2024 18:31:26 GMT
Was on the 20 this afternoon and realised there were two stops called "The Crown" (and just few stops away with each other) along the route, referencing two separate pubs with the same name (one in Chigwell and one in Loughton).
Also amazed by some really generic stop names along the route, such as one just called "Sainsbury's" (which is outside the superstore in Loughton) and one called "Cricket Ground" (in Buckhurst Hill).
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Post by abellion on Oct 5, 2024 18:37:20 GMT
Was on the 20 this afternoon and realised there were two stops called "The Crown" (and just few stops away with each other) along the route, referencing two separate pubs with the same name (one in Chigwell and one in Loughton). Also amazed by some really generic stop names along the route, such as one just called "Sainsbury's" (which is outside the superstore in Loughton) and one called "Cricket Ground" (in Buckhurst Hill). On the 20 and 397 there’s a bus stop called Knighton Lane and a few meters down there’s a collection of flats called High Clere. Some miles away in Lower Sydenham you have Knighton Park Road and Highclere Street a few roads apart off of Sydenham Road, I only noticed this being observant on the 20 + years of 202 experience!!
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 11, 2024 19:06:55 GMT
The 211 has 4 consecutive Stops named Battersea Power Station however are separated by two different trips.
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Post by mrhk on Oct 12, 2024 10:28:29 GMT
The 325 is almost a complete circle from Prince Regent to Beckton but doubt anyone would use it from start to finish. I don't know the 325 but just had a look on Moovit and you're right it's very indirect. I'm not couting any circular routes as being indirect. Old argument however I think this is interesting. I'd like to argue west london's H13 is the most indirect. 15 minute walk from Ruislip Lido to St Vincents, 282 goes from Northwood Hills to Eastcote in <10 mins as opposed to the H13s 20. H11 goes from Northwood Hills to Pinner in about 5 mins whereas the H13 is slightly longer. It does take the direct route between Ruislip and the lido compared to the 331 so
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Post by abellion on Oct 12, 2024 10:52:50 GMT
I don't know the 325 but just had a look on Moovit and you're right it's very indirect. I'm not couting any circular routes as being indirect. Old argument however I think this is interesting. I'd like to argue west london's H13 is the most indirect. 15 minute walk from Ruislip Lido to St Vincents, 282 goes from Northwood Hills to Eastcote in <10 mins as opposed to the H13s 20. H11 goes from Northwood Hills to Pinner in about 5 mins whereas the H13 is slightly longer. It does take the direct route between Ruislip and the lido compared to the 331 so This has been discussed countless times on here over the years, also Diamond Geezer did an interesting blog post about the H13’s indirectness here: diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2018/04/route-h13.html?m=1
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Oct 12, 2024 19:57:46 GMT
I don't know the 325 but just had a look on Moovit and you're right it's very indirect. I'm not couting any circular routes as being indirect. Old argument however I think this is interesting. I'd like to argue west london's H13 is the most indirect. 15 minute walk from Ruislip Lido to St Vincents, 282 goes from Northwood Hills to Eastcote in <10 mins as opposed to the H13s 20. H11 goes from Northwood Hills to Pinner in about 5 mins whereas the H13 is slightly longer. It does take the direct route between Ruislip and the lido compared to the 331 so The H28 is very indirect as well. You could walk between both termini quicker on all those routes.
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Oct 12, 2024 19:58:57 GMT
Is the 321 the only route to terminate at separate supermarkets? (New Cross Sainsbury’s / Foots Cray Tesco)
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 12, 2024 21:05:34 GMT
Is the 321 the only route to terminate at separate supermarkets? (New Cross Sainsbury’s / Foots Cray Tesco) H28 terminates at Tescos both ends (Bulls Bridge/Osterley) There are a few routes that terminates at places that have supermarkets but the supermarket is not the main terminal point. 83 and 245 terminates at Alperton Sainsbury’s at one end and there’s a Sainsbury’s at Golders Green station. 107 terminates at Edgware and New Barnet stations which has a Sainsbury’s at each end. 183 terminates at Pinner and Golders Green stations which has a Sainsbury’s at each end. 240 terminates at Edgware and Golders Green stations which has a Sainsbury’s at each end. Oddly, 140 only serves supermarkets at both ends in one direction. In the Harrow Weald direction, it starts at Asda and terminates at Waitrose. In the Hayes direction, it starts at Lidl/Waitrose and terminates at the Hayes and Harlington station and doesn’t serve the Asda.
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