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Post by mb171 on Nov 2, 2024 17:16:26 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route.
I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309.
Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington)
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Post by ronnie on Nov 2, 2024 18:00:47 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) Without measuring, wouldn’t the 492/81/370/372 have longer sole sections than the 65? Similarly the 465 should have a longer sole section than the 309? |
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Post by PGAT on Nov 2, 2024 18:04:16 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) Without measuring, wouldn’t the 492/81/370/372 have longer sole sections than the 65? Similarly the 465 should have a longer sole section than the 309? Depends if you count the absolute length or the proportion of the route’s sole sections |
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Nov 2, 2024 19:16:55 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) The 465 does meet some non-TFL routes at Leatherhead |
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Post by Busboy105 on Nov 2, 2024 20:15:29 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) The 465 does meet some non-TFL routes at Leatherhead I think the OP was talking about other TFL routes with the 465 |
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Post by mb171 on Nov 2, 2024 20:36:57 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) Without measuring, wouldn’t the 492/81/370/372 have longer sole sections than the 65? Similarly the 465 should have a longer sole section than the 309? My point was throughout the entire route - the 492 intersects with many routes throughout its route. The 309, although a short route, avoids intersecting with other routes and has 18/24 stops served solely which means that 75% of the route is on its own. Other calculations (for the ENTIRE route) can be made for suggested routes - 492 - has 37/57 (roughly) sole section - 64% sole section 81 - 20/46 (roughly) - 43% sole section 370 - 27/45 (roughly) 60% sole section 372 - 17/43 (roughly) - 39% sole section 465 - 35/60 (roughly) - 58% sole section now compare these to the 65 - (roughly) 29/44 - 66% sole section |
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Post by mb171 on Nov 2, 2024 20:48:13 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in the London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. I believe the single decker route with the most sole sections is the 309. Ironically the 465 has the most sole stops consecutively without meeting with another route (after Chessington) The 465 does meet some non-TFL routes at Leatherhead oh wait I wasn't clear enough. I meant that the 465 has the most sole stops without meeting another TFL route. |
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Nov 2, 2024 21:05:20 GMT
The 465 does meet some non-TFL routes at Leatherhead oh wait I wasn't clear enough. I meant that the 465 has the most sole stops without meeting another TFL route. Yes, I realised what you meant afterwards 😅 |
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Post by CustomTransport277 on Nov 3, 2024 12:13:09 GMT
I believe the 65 is the daytime Double decker route with the most sole sections in London, meaning that the no other route runs alongside it in most sections (except its night counterpart) . I used the 65 in 2 instances - one to South Ealing a few weeks ago and from Richmond to Richmond Park and noticed how isolated the route was despite being such a busy route. If you don’t count the school bus routes, then the 51 is another good example of this. |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 3, 2024 22:31:27 GMT
Without measuring, wouldn’t the 492/81/370/372 have longer sole sections than the 65? Similarly the 465 should have a longer sole section than the 309? My point was throughout the entire route - the 492 intersects with many routes throughout its route. The 309, although a short route, avoids intersecting with other routes and has 18/24 stops served solely which means that 75% of the route is on its own. Other calculations (for the ENTIRE route) can be made for suggested routes - 492 - has 37/57 (roughly) sole section - 64% sole section 81 - 20/46 (roughly) - 43% sole section 370 - 27/45 (roughly) 60% sole section 372 - 17/43 (roughly) - 39% sole section 465 - 35/60 (roughly) - 58% sole section now compare these to the 65 - (roughly) 29/44 - 66% sole section Surely the 323 would pip sister route 309: 11 out of 14 stops is solo section (as I prefer to call it), equating to 78% of the 323 being on its own. |
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Post by mb171 on Nov 4, 2024 6:45:03 GMT
My point was throughout the entire route - the 492 intersects with many routes throughout its route. The 309, although a short route, avoids intersecting with other routes and has 18/24 stops served solely which means that 75% of the route is on its own. Other calculations (for the ENTIRE route) can be made for suggested routes - 492 - has 37/57 (roughly) sole section - 64% sole section 81 - 20/46 (roughly) - 43% sole section 370 - 27/45 (roughly) 60% sole section 372 - 17/43 (roughly) - 39% sole section 465 - 35/60 (roughly) - 58% sole section now compare these to the 65 - (roughly) 29/44 - 66% sole section Surely the 323 would pip sister route 309: 11 out of 14 stops is solo section (as I prefer to call it), equating to 78% of the 323 being on its own. I totally forgot about the 323 to be honest 😅 |
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Post by ronnie on Nov 4, 2024 9:58:33 GMT
Surely the 323 would pip sister route 309: 11 out of 14 stops is solo section (as I prefer to call it), equating to 78% of the 323 being on its own. I totally forgot about the 323 to be honest 😅 How do we fit hail and ride routes into this model (out of curiosity)? The 364 for sure has the longest hail and ride section in London |
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Post by PGAT on Nov 4, 2024 14:10:47 GMT
I totally forgot about the 323 to be honest 😅 How do we fit hail and ride routes into this model (out of curiosity)? The 364 for sure has the longest hail and ride section in London The TfL website lists out stop names for each hail and ride section, so you can just count the total number of stops |
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Post by sam97 on Nov 12, 2024 16:28:46 GMT
TUK (Abellio at the time) were the only operator that hasn’t ordered a Wright B5LH Gemini 3 before. Is there more examples where the one operator has never ordered a bus type at all?
EDIT: Loans and Novation doesn’t count.
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Post by TB123 on Nov 12, 2024 16:32:20 GMT
TUK (Abellio at the time) were the only operator that hasn’t ordered a Wright B5LH Gemini 3 before. Is there more examples where the one operator has never ordered a bus type at all? EDIT: Loans and Novation doesn’t count. Uno, Sullivans and HCT Group also never ordered B5LH/Gemini 3s |
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