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Post by 725DYE on Aug 10, 2020 12:13:38 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. 127 at Purley Cross. Absolutely horrible junction. Bus has to cross over three lanes of traffic whilst the driver has to look back and left. When the 53-reg PVLs came to C in 2016 it took them less than a week to be banned owing to their side blind box placement which obscured the driver's view at this turning.
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Post by rif153 on Aug 10, 2020 12:58:17 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. 127 at Purley Cross. Absolutely horrible junction. Bus has to cross over three lanes of traffic whilst the driver has to look back and left. When the 53-reg PVLs came to C in 2016 it took them less than a week to be banned owing to their side blind box placement which obscured the driver's view at this turning. The 260 at Savoy Circus has something similar to that, heading towards White City buses have to cross three lanes of traffic to get from the bus stop to the turning right lane.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 10, 2020 13:40:13 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. The 417 & 432 have quite an awkward turn from Westow Street to Central Hill where the bus must swing out into the opposite side of the road due to the angle of the turn which is why the stop line of the opposite side of the road is further back - hasn’t stopped some cars from literally blocking the turn at times
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Post by M1104 on Aug 10, 2020 14:56:00 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. The 249 gets a good sharp left turn from Streatham High Road into Mitcham Lane, an almost 180° turn at that
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 10, 2020 21:06:33 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. 127 at Purley Cross. Absolutely horrible junction. Bus has to cross over three lanes of traffic whilst the driver has to look back and left. When the 53-reg PVLs came to C in 2016 it took them less than a week to be banned owing to their side blind box placement which obscured the driver's view at this turning. Purley Cross is an absolute pain in the arse to drive through at the best of times! Crossing the Brighton Road heading towards the A22 is also bad as you can get cut up easily due to the way the road layout is.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 10, 2020 21:13:56 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. The 249 gets a good sharp left turn from Streatham High Road into Mitcham Lane, an almost 360° turn at that That's a good one, I believe the old traffic island that used to be there was hit on multiple occasions to the point they simply left a yellow temporary bollard on the island at one point
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Post by kmkcheng on Aug 10, 2020 21:21:33 GMT
What double deck routes have the most challenging turns. The 249 gets a good sharp left turn from Streatham High Road into Mitcham Lane, an almost 360° turn at that I assume you mean a 180° turn as a 360° turn is a full circle and you end up facing the same direction you started from
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 10, 2020 21:53:12 GMT
The 249 gets a good sharp left turn from Streatham High Road into Mitcham Lane, an almost 360° turn at that I assume you mean a 180° turn as a 360° turn is a full circle and you end up facing the same direction you started from Although if going clockwise, it's more like a 200° turn
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 10, 2020 22:42:34 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage?
One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do.
Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage?
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Post by george on Aug 10, 2020 22:45:57 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage? One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do. Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage? No RATP route passes FW. The 281 passes TF but technically doesn't go past FW.
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 10, 2020 22:51:03 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage? One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do. Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage? BC is another garage which have none of its routes pass outside the garage since they lost the 455
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 10, 2020 22:53:07 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage? One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do. Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage? BC? Only GAL & RATP routes pass it IIRC SW? Only Abellio routes pass it IIRC Edit:PL technically as no routes go down Waterside Way
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 10, 2020 22:53:33 GMT
127 at Purley Cross. Absolutely horrible junction. Bus has to cross over three lanes of traffic whilst the driver has to look back and left. When the 53-reg PVLs came to C in 2016 it took them less than a week to be banned owing to their side blind box placement which obscured the driver's view at this turning. The 260 at Savoy Circus has something similar to that, heading towards White City buses have to cross three lanes of traffic to get from the bus stop to the turning right lane. Also a similar case at Ilford with the EL1 and 169, the buses towards Barking need to cross a few lanes to get into the far right one so they can head to Barking as opposed to Ilford Town Centre.
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Post by galwhv69 on Aug 10, 2020 22:56:42 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage? One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do. Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage? For the second part AL Edit:Also TV
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 10, 2020 23:14:09 GMT
What garages in London are there where none of the routes which pass the garage are operated by the operator out of that garage? One off the top of my head is Silvertown where the Tower Transit on the 473 and Stagecoach on the 474 pass it but Go Ahead themselves have no routes which do. Also can be flipped and said what garages in London have every route which passes them run by the company which also runs the garage? LI during the day has both of the routes (308 & W15) that directly serve the garage are run by Tower Transit.
The 108, which is the only route that directly serves MG is mostly run from that garage.
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