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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jan 10, 2021 15:47:20 GMT
Top Route of Single decker: 1. C10 4 887 436 2. 235 4 733 301 3. 195 4 731 490 4. 316 4 710 048 5. W15 4 700 456 6. 200 4 152 818 ( i understand this was before change to DD) 7. 276 4 149 795 8. C11 4 069 182 9. 46 4 046 858 10. 80 4 034 589 Nice to see that two out of the top 10 are expected to convert to DD (80 and 200). Bar the 195 I think all are restricted to SDs. The 46, 235 and 316 can all run with DD's.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 10, 2021 15:58:23 GMT
Nice to see that two out of the top 10 are expected to convert to DD (80 and 200). Bar the 195 I think all are restricted to SDs. The 46, 235 and 316 can all run with DD's. That is not strictly correct - the 316 can but there has never been any confirmation for the 235 one way or the other and whilst the bridge at Kentish Town West is high enough, it requires buses to use the middle of the roads which is far from ideal on high frequency routes.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 10, 2021 16:11:38 GMT
We know apart from North Brentford the 235 has been DD in the past.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jan 10, 2021 16:15:50 GMT
We know apart from North Brentford the 235 has been DD in the past. The only DDs that went on the 235 were the School Bus ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 16:28:29 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jan 10, 2021 17:11:06 GMT
The 46, 235 and 316 can all run with DD's. That is not strictly correct - the 316 can but there has never been any confirmation for the 235 one way or the other and whilst the bridge at Kentish Town West is high enough, it requires buses to use the middle of the roads which is far from ideal on high frequency routes. Yes, thank you.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 10, 2021 19:02:53 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services. My money would be on 412 and 492.
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 10, 2021 19:21:13 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services. One's with ? - I'm not sure if officially allocated single or double decks Not sure if X68 is what you consider special service Just included some more as I'm not sure what you count or not 375? 467 X68 335 R9? U7? 278 306 317 396? 498 412 423 301 X140
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Post by TB123 on Jan 10, 2021 19:29:18 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services. One's with ? - I'm not sure if officially allocated single or double decks Not sure if X68 is what you consider special service Just included some more as I'm not sure what you count or not 375? 467 X68 335 R9? U7? 278 306 317 396? 498 412 423 301 X140 The 375, R9, U7, 396 are contracted as single deck routes still. The X140 is nowhere near the bottom. In fact it's usage is higher than many established surburban services already
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Post by TB123 on Jan 10, 2021 19:31:01 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services. 467, X68, 317, 498, 412, 129, 492, 215, 372, 406
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Post by ianhardy on Jan 10, 2021 19:40:39 GMT
We know apart from North Brentford the 235 has been DD in the past. The only DDs that went on the 235 were the School Bus ones. No that is incorrect, when the 235 was first introduced on 31/08/1996, London United operated it with Metrobuses from AV for about a year & half until 10/01/1998 when the route was transferred to TGM who operated it with Darts (apart from the school journeys which stayed with LU) and it has single deck ever since.
The school journeys became the 635 on 05/04/2004.
Looking at North Brentford on Google StreetView, there does not seem to be any reason why double deckers cannot be used on the whole route.
I now know why the 235 seemed so busy when I was going to and from work. If ever there was a route (pre-COVID that is) that could do with being converted it is that one.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jan 10, 2021 20:12:35 GMT
What are the 10 least used DD routes? Not including night/school/special services. One's with ? - I'm not sure if officially allocated single or double decks Not sure if X68 is what you consider special service Just included some more as I'm not sure what you count or not 375? 467 X68 335 R9? U7? 278 306 317 396? 498 412 423 301 X140 Is the 278 really DD?
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Post by TB123 on Jan 10, 2021 20:18:13 GMT
One's with ? - I'm not sure if officially allocated single or double decks Not sure if X68 is what you consider special service Just included some more as I'm not sure what you count or not 375? 467 X68 335 R9? U7? 278 306 317 396? 498 412 423 301 X140 Is the 278 really DD? Yes
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 10, 2021 20:55:35 GMT
One's with ? - I'm not sure if officially allocated single or double decks Not sure if X68 is what you consider special service Just included some more as I'm not sure what you count or not 375? 467 X68 335 R9? U7? 278 306 317 396? 498 412 423 301 X140 The 375, R9, U7, 396 are contracted as single deck routes still. The X140 is nowhere near the bottom. In fact it's usage is higher than many established surburban services already I think raw figures wise the X140 is still near the bottom, however the figures used average the route out through a 48/52 week period which then as you say gives the route very healthy ridership. I believe the 278 would fall into the same boat. The 301 is certainly one I'm surprised to see down there though.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 10, 2021 23:23:25 GMT
Well the 301 still isn't providing its main aim of carrying people from Bexleyheath to Abbey Wood, nor has it replaced part of the 472 in Thamesmead yet so it's likely to be quite low on the list. If it's not quicker then the 96, 99 and 422 (which i don't think it is in the case of the 96 and 422) then its probably not carrying many Bexleyheath to Woolwich trips either. Its time will come when Crossrail opens I'm sure.
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