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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 23, 2023 12:43:23 GMT
Irrelevant, he is fully responsible for everything posted in his name. It’s an entirely racist view and wouldn’t be tolerated if aimed at him or anyone else of colour. So why should it be tolerated here? It's not irrelevant at all. If you take the view that he is responsible for everything posted in his name, then he has done the right thing in getting the document taken down and reviewed. A racist view is not being tolerated. Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 23, 2023 12:55:36 GMT
The problem is that there's double standards regarding racism in this country, if a white person said that about a coloured family, it would be considered much more controversial. I don't think that he should resign based on this issue but at the same time he shouldn't have posted that comment. He didn't post the comment, it was added by a staff member (as reported in the Express article). The document has been taken down and is being reviewed. Excuse of convenience? |
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 23, 2023 12:57:09 GMT
It's not irrelevant at all. If you take the view that he is responsible for everything posted in his name, then he has done the right thing in getting the document taken down and reviewed. A racist view is not being tolerated. Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. I agree with you that the caption should not have been posted in the first place. I don't believe it was intentionally racist, I do think that the caption lacked sensitivity and awareness and whoever added it had a serious lapse of judgement. It has now been withdrawn. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 23, 2023 13:02:55 GMT
Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. I agree with you that the caption should not have been posted in the first place. I don't believe it was intentionally racist, I do think that the caption lacked sensitivity and awareness and whoever added it had a serious lapse of judgement. It has now been withdrawn. So if a white person posted it about a non-white person it would be racist? Yes, so why is it not racist on the reverse? By seemingly accepting this you are seemingly accepting all forms of racism, even from non-whites to whites. |
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 23, 2023 13:48:26 GMT
I agree with you that the caption should not have been posted in the first place. I don't believe it was intentionally racist, I do think that the caption lacked sensitivity and awareness and whoever added it had a serious lapse of judgement. It has now been withdrawn. So if a white person posted it about a non-white person it would be racist? Yes, so why is it not racist on the reverse? By seemingly accepting this you are seemingly accepting all forms of racism, even from non-whites to whites. Please do not put words into my mouth and tell me what I seemingly accept. Racism is too complex, nuanced, sensitive and painful a subject to be discussed in such a polarised way. |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 23, 2023 15:16:07 GMT
Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. I agree with you that the caption should not have been posted in the first place. I don't believe it was intentionally racist, I do think that the caption lacked sensitivity and awareness and whoever added it had a serious lapse of judgement. It has now been withdrawn. If it is not intentionally racist what exactly is it if it is not discriminating on basis of race? If Braverman had said this would be jumping up and down! It is bordering hate speach which is criminal |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 23, 2023 15:25:10 GMT
I agree with you that the caption should not have been posted in the first place. I don't believe it was intentionally racist, I do think that the caption lacked sensitivity and awareness and whoever added it had a serious lapse of judgement. It has now been withdrawn. If it is not intentionally racist what exactly is it if it is not discriminating on basis of race? If Braverman had said this would be jumping up and down! It is bordering hate speach which is criminal Sure there will be plenty of FOI requests to find out exactly the mayor knew, approved and when ... unless it all magically disappears |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 23, 2023 15:45:28 GMT
Does not surprise me due to the idiocy of the mayor. But to resign and leave London in a further sh#thole than he already created is pointless. Leave him to reap what he has already sown. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 23, 2023 15:49:15 GMT
It's not irrelevant at all. If you take the view that he is responsible for everything posted in his name, then he has done the right thing in getting the document taken down and reviewed. A racist view is not being tolerated. Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. I am the last person to defend the idiot Khan, but in fairness, he would not see everything put out by his department. I very much doubt everything that has 'MAYOR OF LONDON' written on it is seen by the mayor. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 23, 2023 15:50:49 GMT
Yes, he is absolutely responsible for everything posted in his name. This is exactly the sort of thing that he himself would have sat down to review before being put on his own website. Passing it off to a social media team doesn’t absolve him of responsibility. It never should have gone out in the first place as it is 100% racist. By defending this act of racism you are tolerating the racist nature of the posters and commentary. Khan is no better than the people who make racist comments about him. This just shows that people of colour are nothing more than tokens to him, tokens he can use to manipulate the voting public into thinking he is inclusive. I am the last person to defend the idiot Khan, but in fairness, he would not see everything put out by his department. I very much doubt everything that has 'MAYOR OF LONDON' written on it is seen by the mayor. But this wasn’t related to his role as Mayor of London. This was a post on his personal website, so it is very likely he would have signed off on it. |
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 27, 2023 7:31:46 GMT
Would any of those 31 who said they would vote for Khan in 2021 poll, like to comment on whether they now have a different view.
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Post by MKAY315 on Aug 27, 2023 8:54:11 GMT
Would any of those 31 who said they would vote for Khan in 2021 poll, like to comment on whether they now have a different view. Begrudgingly I'm in two minds as to whether I would either still vote him in or have an independent person come. NO WAY IN HELL will I EVER vote for the tories. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Aug 27, 2023 12:37:22 GMT
Would any of those 31 who said they would vote for Khan in 2021 poll, like to comment on whether they now have a different view. I voted for Khan in the last election however I would probably not vote for him. Most of the time I can't be bothered to vote |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 27, 2023 12:43:02 GMT
Would any of those 31 who said they would vote for Khan in 2021 poll, like to comment on whether they now have a different view. Unless Susan Hall makes it a front-line policy to review the overpayment of staff within London Underground you'll never ever catch me voting for a Tory. I'd vote for Khan despite his mistakes. |
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Post by Paul on Aug 27, 2023 12:44:00 GMT
Would any of those 31 who said they would vote for Khan in 2021 poll, like to comment on whether they now have a different view. I voted for Khan in the last election however I would probably not vote for him. Most of the time I can't be bothered to vote If you don’t vote then you cannot complain about the actions of the duly elected Mayor. Voting takes seconds and polling stations are very easy to get to - I get terribly frustrated with those who say they can’t be bothered to vote; it’s the only voice we have to tell politicians what we really think of them and it’s something that’s been fought strongly for and shouldn’t be dismissed so frivolously |
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