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Post by Just an MCV Evolution.. on May 11, 2021 21:24:44 GMT
I saw however my point being is rather than withdrawing the 320 on that section, you might as well keep it and have addition of the extended 199 to help support the two. As I said before after regular use of both routes they do get quite packed between Catford and Bromley common so even replacing one with the other isn’t going to help. Also a lot of people I know who live around the biggin hill and keston area prefer the direct link into Catford rather than changing so there is a positive in why the 320 goes to Bromley. Your experience is obviously far more recent than mine - as I said, I haven’t regularly used that corridor in nearly 8 years! I find it surprising however, that people in Biggin Hill and Keston are using the service through to Catford. The 320s I see in Bromley are rarely carrying many people across town. Is demand genuinely high enough to warrant 3 high frequency services along Bromley Road? It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station.
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Post by Dillon95 on May 11, 2021 21:27:23 GMT
Your experience is obviously far more recent than mine - as I said, I haven’t regularly used that corridor in nearly 8 years! I find it surprising however, that people in Biggin Hill and Keston are using the service through to Catford. The 320s I see in Bromley are rarely carrying many people across town. Is demand genuinely high enough to warrant 3 high frequency services along Bromley Road? It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station. Why go all the way to Catford for a train station? Wouldn’t you use Bromley South, or Hayes on the 246?
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Post by Green Kitten on May 11, 2021 21:30:15 GMT
Barking and Dagenham seems to have a more sparse bus network than others.
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Post by vjaska on May 11, 2021 21:45:58 GMT
Barking and Dagenham seems to have a more sparse bus network than others. I'd have to agree - it has one of the lowest totals in terms of how many standard day routes it operates at just 25 which ties it with Kingston whilst Sutton only has 21 which is the lowest. Ironically, Surrey has 25 TfL standard day routes
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Post by Just an MCV Evolution.. on May 11, 2021 21:49:09 GMT
It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station. Why go all the way to Catford for a train station? Wouldn’t you use Bromley South, or Hayes on the 246? Unless the traffic is bad between Catford and Bromley. I wouldn't bother changing at Bromley if I was just going to Catford.
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Post by Dillon95 on May 11, 2021 21:52:18 GMT
Why go all the way to Catford for a train station? Wouldn’t you use Bromley South, or Hayes on the 246? Unless the traffic is bad between Catford and Bromley. I wouldn't bother changing at Bromley if I was just going to Catford. Oh no if I live in Biggin Hill and I need to get to Catford I’d stay on the 320. I assumed you meant to get to Central London. I’d go from Bromley South or Hayes.
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Post by Just an MCV Evolution.. on May 11, 2021 21:53:33 GMT
Unless the traffic is bad between Catford and Bromley. I wouldn't bother changing at Bromley if I was just going to Catford. Oh no if I live in Biggin Hill and I need to get to Catford I’d stay on the 320. I assumed you meant to get to Central London. I’d go from Bromley South or Hayes. Oh right I see. Of course for central London I would 100% change at Bromley or Hayes. But if going to Catford no need to waste money on the train.
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Post by Paul on May 12, 2021 4:12:52 GMT
Your experience is obviously far more recent than mine - as I said, I haven’t regularly used that corridor in nearly 8 years! I find it surprising however, that people in Biggin Hill and Keston are using the service through to Catford. The 320s I see in Bromley are rarely carrying many people across town. Is demand genuinely high enough to warrant 3 high frequency services along Bromley Road? It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station. Is Catford really that big of a draw? I must be missing something. I certainly take a lot of people from Biggin Hill and Keston to Hayes Station on the 246 in the morning and back again in the evening
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Post by Dillon95 on May 12, 2021 8:22:38 GMT
It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station. Is Catford really that big of a draw? I must be missing something. I certainly take a lot of people from Biggin Hill and Keston to Hayes Station on the 246 in the morning and back again in the evening It’s a bit of a dive.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 10:05:29 GMT
Is Catford really that big of a draw? I must be missing something. I certainly take a lot of people from Biggin Hill and Keston to Hayes Station on the 246 in the morning and back again in the evening It’s a bit of a dive. It’s got better ! If you want dive, pop over to Penge.
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Post by route53 on May 12, 2021 17:52:53 GMT
It’s got better ! If you want dive, pop over to Penge. Yeah Catford is nearly gentrified these days but still has a way to go before it becomes the next New Cross :-D
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Post by route53 on May 12, 2021 17:54:41 GMT
It's not much of a surprise people use the 320 end to end since Biggin Hill doesn't have a train station. Is Catford really that big of a draw? I must be missing something. I certainly take a lot of people from Biggin Hill and Keston to Hayes Station on the 246 in the morning and back again in the evening It’s a back up for Lewisham in my opinion but I really see it as an interchange for different bus routes, you can get from Sidcup to Sydenham via two buses by going via Catford by rail it’s pretty well connected. I have to say though that the 160 has always been an odd route since it connects two places that one wouldn’t think of connecting, Catford and Sidcup, both towns aren’t particularly large urban centres like their respective neighbouring towns of Lewisham and Bexleyheath, the route feels incomplete like it should continue to either Lewisham or Bexleyheath, but it’s still a good route nonetheless
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Post by ronnie on May 12, 2021 18:05:09 GMT
It’s got better ! If you want dive, pop over to Penge. Yeah Catford is nearly gentrified these days but still has a way to go before it becomes the next New Cross :-D You mean it was a dog of a place but now has fat cats roaming around (Time to run and hide)
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Post by Dillon95 on May 12, 2021 22:03:57 GMT
Is Catford really that big of a draw? I must be missing something. I certainly take a lot of people from Biggin Hill and Keston to Hayes Station on the 246 in the morning and back again in the evening It’s a back up for Lewisham in my opinion but I really see it as an interchange for different bus routes, you can get from Sidcup to Sydenham via two buses by going via Catford by rail it’s pretty well connected. I have to say though that the 160 has always been an odd route since it connects two places that one wouldn’t think of connecting, Catford and Sidcup, both towns aren’t particularly large urban centres like their respective neighbouring towns of Lewisham and Bexleyheath, the route feels incomplete like it should continue to either Lewisham or Bexleyheath, but it’s still a good route nonetheless I live in Sidcup and I never use the 160 if I’ve ever needed to get to Catford to meet someone etc. It goes all around Chislehurst, then all around Middle Park Estate etc. I just change at Bromley.
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Post by vjaska on May 12, 2021 23:43:45 GMT
It’s got better ! If you want dive, pop over to Penge. Yeah Catford is nearly gentrified these days but still has a way to go before it becomes the next New Cross :-D I thought New Cross was still a dump?
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