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Post by SILENCED on Feb 19, 2023 13:31:35 GMT
So based on one particular stat where the place in question isn’t even number 1 on the list, you think such a sweeping statement is required? If you are saying that is a fact Londoners should be proud of, then you are entitled to your view. But then that just emphasises how low standards have become in London. To me the stats are shameful and a sad reflection on Londoners. You should not expect to have anything stolen from your front garden in a civilised society. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 19, 2023 13:34:01 GMT
Can't see him losing to a Tory candidate at all, no matter how much his policies start falling apart. It's unlikely anyone with a conscious by this point would vote Tory, no matter where the elections are held. And why is that? If Khan is the next Labour candidate for elections in 2024 and he indeed railroads the ULEZ expansion, then he's done for unfortunately. Johnson's tenure wasn't all bad and compared to the Son of a Bus Driver, his expenditure & investment on TfL was much better. However we need to remember that Boris also won due to failing Labour support within the general public. Boris was riding on the back of Conservative success alongside falling Labour support. It's quite clear that there is not going to be any sort of Conservative success in the next few months. People in London aren't the same breed as in 2000 anymore, they're going to vote for Labour and not for Khan. How many people actually vote for their specific MP these days, they just see the Labour logo and put a tick or number next to it. It's not going to be very different in the Mayoral election. |
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Post by ibus246 on Feb 19, 2023 13:38:59 GMT
Interesting to see the latest stats on Khan's approval rating for Jan. 48% of those polled thought he was doing a bad job. 38% of those polled thought he was doing a good job. Approval rating -10% Could Khan be the cause of a Conservative mayoral victory, at a time when they are universally loathed. Some feat if he achieved it. About time he realises he is poison and withdraws as the Labour nomination for the Mayoral race. I see the ULEZ expansion as being Khan’s “poll tax moment” - I voted for him and his predecessors previously but definitely will not be voting for him again. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 19, 2023 15:21:13 GMT
Interesting to see the latest stats on Khan's approval rating for Jan. 48% of those polled thought he was doing a bad job. 38% of those polled thought he was doing a good job. Approval rating -10% Could Khan be the cause of a Conservative mayoral victory, at a time when they are universally loathed. Some feat if he achieved it. About time he realises he is poison and withdraws as the Labour nomination for the Mayoral race. Khan and his ideas may be toxic but I don't think that will stop him losing the next election, and I think at a time when the Tories are hated more than ever before in the past 13 years, this might give him an advantage. However in some areas there is still strong Tory support. Bromley and Bexley will never go Labour |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 19, 2023 16:06:42 GMT
So based on one particular stat where the place in question isn’t even number 1 on the list, you think such a sweeping statement is required? If you are saying that is a fact Londoners should be proud of, then you are entitled to your view. But then that just emphasises how low standards have become in London. To me the stats are shameful and a sad reflection on Londoners. You should not expect to have anything stolen from your front garden in a civilised society. Is there something wrong with actually asking what I think as apposed to making assumptions? What part of my post says I’m proud or that the stats are great? All I’ve questioned is your unnecessary generalisation of an entire group of people |
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 19, 2023 16:10:24 GMT
And why is that? If Khan is the next Labour candidate for elections in 2024 and he indeed railroads the ULEZ expansion, then he's done for unfortunately. Johnson's tenure wasn't all bad and compared to the Son of a Bus Driver, his expenditure & investment on TfL was much better. No, it was just as bad - most of the schemes that happened were ideas Livingstone had and the he did have either were wasteful like the Borismaster or were ones that didn’t happen. And we must remember, part of the current financial issues at TfL stems back from his decision to remove subsidy alongside the government. Johnson’s tenure was as bad and that’s from someone who actually voted for him It's important to put party politics aside and judge the characters for what they achieved. Yes Johnson turned down the 270 million annual grant from Westminster in 2014 (same year TfL announced the Night Tube). Yes Khan had a fares freeze on the TfL network depriving the authority of 160 million per annum. Both achieved significant milestones in the funding problems that TfL face today. Again, if you remove things like the oasis of Olympics funding that TfL had in 2012 or the paralysing profits from the pandemic, there's not much difference in achievements. That's where you come down to personality politics, and at least Boris was truthful in saying fares hikes were needed for TfL to invest. Khan won't admit that TfL were banking on 125 million in fares from the current ULEZ zone to bring in the money when only around 60 million comes in from the scheme, so he has to plug in that gap somehow. He's relying on a supplementary form of income as working capital; you bring that to an accountant as a business plan and they'll laugh you out of the office. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 19, 2023 16:17:24 GMT
No, it was just as bad - most of the schemes that happened were ideas Livingstone had and the he did have either were wasteful like the Borismaster or were ones that didn’t happen. And we must remember, part of the current financial issues at TfL stems back from his decision to remove subsidy alongside the government. Johnson’s tenure was as bad and that’s from someone who actually voted for him It's important to put party politics aside and judge the characters for what they achieved. Yes Johnson turned down the 270 million annual grant from Westminster in 2014 (same year TfL announced the Night Tube). Yes Khan had a fares freeze on the TfL network depriving the authority of 160 million per annum. Both achieved significant milestones in the funding problems that TfL face today. Again, if you remove things like the oasis of Olympics funding that TfL had in 2012 or the paralysing profits from the pandemic, there's not much difference in achievements. That's where you come down to personality politics, and at least Boris was truthful in saying fares hikes were needed for TfL to invest. Khan won't admit that TfL were banking on 125 million in fares from the current ULEZ zone to bring in the money when only around 60 million comes in from the scheme, so he has to plug in that gap somehow. He's relying on a supplementary form of income as working capital; you bring that to an accountant as a business plan and they'll laugh you out of the office. My post had nothing to do with party politics - I align closer to Labour yet voted for Boris in the mayoral election over Livingstone because of the fare hike situation but that was a rare moment of honesty from him and I didn’t vote for Khan in either election he participated in nor do I like him so you could say, I’m being very balanced in my view |
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 19, 2023 16:40:18 GMT
It's important to put party politics aside and judge the characters for what they achieved. Yes Johnson turned down the 270 million annual grant from Westminster in 2014 (same year TfL announced the Night Tube). Yes Khan had a fares freeze on the TfL network depriving the authority of 160 million per annum. Both achieved significant milestones in the funding problems that TfL face today. Again, if you remove things like the oasis of Olympics funding that TfL had in 2012 or the paralysing profits from the pandemic, there's not much difference in achievements. That's where you come down to personality politics, and at least Boris was truthful in saying fares hikes were needed for TfL to invest. Khan won't admit that TfL were banking on 125 million in fares from the current ULEZ zone to bring in the money when only around 60 million comes in from the scheme, so he has to plug in that gap somehow. He's relying on a supplementary form of income as working capital; you bring that to an accountant as a business plan and they'll laugh you out of the office. My post had nothing to do with party politics - I align closer to Labour yet voted for Boris in the mayoral election over Livingstone because of the fare hike situation but that was a rare moment of honesty from him and I didn’t vote for Khan in either election he participated in nor do I like him so you could say, I’m being very balanced in my view You mentioned Boris taking the grant away but not Khan's fares freeze which was well documented in 2016 as leaving TfL cash strapped to the tune of 160 million per annum. I personally don't vote and am not on the voting register (how will my credit score ever cope!?), so I tend to avoid these discussions as I don't really have a bigger stake in them than most. That being said, it's hard not to acknowledge some financial mishandling from our current Mayor as some of his promises lies like investing in outer London hasn't come to fruition. The cycling mad buffoon invested more in buses than the Son of a Bus Driver ever did, that's the simple fact. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 19, 2023 16:51:12 GMT
My post had nothing to do with party politics - I align closer to Labour yet voted for Boris in the mayoral election over Livingstone because of the fare hike situation but that was a rare moment of honesty from him and I didn’t vote for Khan in either election he participated in nor do I like him so you could say, I’m being very balanced in my view You mentioned Boris taking the grant away but not Khan's fares freeze which was well documented in 2016 as leaving TfL cash strapped to the tune of 160 million per annum. I personally don't vote and am not on the voting register (how will my credit score ever cope!?), so I tend to avoid these discussions as I don't really have a bigger stake in them than most. That being said, it's hard not to acknowledge some financial mishandling from our current Mayor as some of his promises lies like investing in outer London hasn't come to fruition. The cycling mad buffoon invested more in buses than the Son of a Bus Driver ever did, that's the simple fact. I’ve mentioned the fares freeze and how it too has contributed countless times on the forum over the years. I stand by my view both Khan & Boris are as bad as each other |
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Post by yunus on Feb 19, 2023 23:40:12 GMT
Never ever thought that I would agree with Boris one day!
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Post by COBO on Feb 19, 2023 23:56:04 GMT
Never ever thought that I would agree with Boris one day! I’m confused 😐 I would have thought that you would be one board with the ULEZ. |
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Post by rugbyref on Feb 25, 2023 8:51:41 GMT
Now the ASA has received hundreds of complaints about Khan’ new ULEZ advert. Personally, I think his ‘every journey matters’ phrase is a blatant lie, as his ULEZ plan would see poorer people unable to make journeys.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 25, 2023 10:07:28 GMT
Now the ASA has received hundreds of complaints about Khan’ new ULEZ advert. Personally, I think his ‘every journey matters’ phrase is a blatant lie, as his ULEZ plan would see poorer people unable to make journeys. While I'm usually supportive of Labour, Khan seems to be going off on one completely. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/council-ulez-expansion-free-town-centre-car-parking-harrow-b1062910.htmlPeople need to realise that cars are still very much the preferred mode of transport for people in outer London. A relatively poor Borough in Barking and Dagenham has a car parked outside almost every single house because of the terrible transport connections in the area. Barking is the only place you might see it slightly lower, but even then you often see cars outside every house that has a car parking spot for one. Why would anyone on the planet rely on an every 15 minute bus on a Sunday to do the weekly shop, when you can just carry a lot more in a car and go where you want when you want. In inner London it's a totally different story as you often have multiple bus routes running at far greater frequencies. The promise of various schemes is an empty promise completely. You need to put the improvements in first, not the other way around. I sincerely hope the ULEZ expansion gets blocked in the courts until improvements like this exist and are delivered in a timely manner. |
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Post by northlondon83 on Feb 25, 2023 10:28:02 GMT
Now the ASA has received hundreds of complaints about Khan’ new ULEZ advert. Personally, I think his ‘every journey matters’ phrase is a blatant lie, as his ULEZ plan would see poorer people unable to make journeys. While I'm usually supportive of Labour, Khan seems to be going off on one completely. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/council-ulez-expansion-free-town-centre-car-parking-harrow-b1062910.htmlPeople need to realise that cars are still very much the preferred mode of transport for people in outer London. A relatively poor Borough in Barking and Dagenham has a car parked outside almost every single house because of the terrible transport connections in the area. Barking is the only place you might see it slightly lower, but even then you often see cars outside every house that has a car parking spot for one. Why would anyone on the planet rely on an every 15 minute bus on a Sunday to do the weekly shop, when you can just carry a lot more in a car and go where you want when you want. In inner London it's a totally different story as you often have multiple bus routes running at far greater frequencies. The promise of various schemes is an empty promise completely. You need to put the improvements in first, not the other way around. I sincerely hope the ULEZ expansion gets blocked in the courts until improvements like this exist and are delivered in a timely manner. What's so terrible about having the District and Elizabeth lines? Yes there's bits in the middle like Becontree Heath that are near neither whilst places in the north like Marks Gate that aren't near the Elizabeth line but I think there are worse boroughs. Thamesmead doesn't have a train station, neither does significant parts of Hillingdon borough, like the Heathrow villages, Hayes End, Hillingdon Heath, Yeading. The north is slightly better but still Harefield has no trains and very few buses and no more than 6bph at any time. As for buses, I'm not too familiar with the area but in terms of trains I don't think B&D is that bad, especially as it gained a new station recently A lot of places in outer London don't have great connections, like parts of Ickenham, that only have the 90 minutes U10 that doesn't even run on Sunday. If it wasn't for the 278, Ickenham would be starved of cross borough links |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 25, 2023 10:36:01 GMT
While I'm usually supportive of Labour, Khan seems to be going off on one completely. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/council-ulez-expansion-free-town-centre-car-parking-harrow-b1062910.htmlPeople need to realise that cars are still very much the preferred mode of transport for people in outer London. A relatively poor Borough in Barking and Dagenham has a car parked outside almost every single house because of the terrible transport connections in the area. Barking is the only place you might see it slightly lower, but even then you often see cars outside every house that has a car parking spot for one. Why would anyone on the planet rely on an every 15 minute bus on a Sunday to do the weekly shop, when you can just carry a lot more in a car and go where you want when you want. In inner London it's a totally different story as you often have multiple bus routes running at far greater frequencies. The promise of various schemes is an empty promise completely. You need to put the improvements in first, not the other way around. I sincerely hope the ULEZ expansion gets blocked in the courts until improvements like this exist and are delivered in a timely manner. What's so terrible about having the District and Elizabeth lines? Yes there's bits in the middle like Becontree Heath that are near neither whilst places in the north like Marks Gate that aren't near the Elizabeth line but I think there are worse boroughs. Thamesmead doesn't have a train station, neither does significant parts of Hillingdon borough, like the Heathrow villages, Hayes End, Hillingdon Heath, Yeading. The north is slightly better but still Harefield has no trains and very few buses and no more than 6bph at any time. As for buses, I'm not too familiar with the area but in terms of trains I don't think B&D is that bad, especially as it gained a new station recently A lot of places in outer London don't have great connections, like parts of Ickenham, that only have the 90 minutes U10 that doesn't even run on Sunday. If it wasn't for the 278, Ickenham would be starved of cross borough links The new station has a service every 15 minutes, and it's actually in a position where if you've just missed a train that chances are you're quicker off taking the bus into Barking if you are north of it. Yes, it's these places in the middle that I'm talking about. What about places like Dagenham East where the tube frequency falls drastically as the H&C and half the Districts turn short at Barking? Where is the 103 meant to take you that's anywhere useful apart from Romford? What about all of Barking and Dagenham at night when there's only a handful of night routes. You've got just the N15 for most of it, with the N86 just about skirting the borough. The 238 and EL1 stay within Barking as far as the borough is concerned. The Upney area and Dagenham Heathway area have pretty much no night routes. |
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