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Post by danorak on Feb 17, 2022 20:16:41 GMT
Stretching the definition of a 'current' route to breaking point, but if we take the 381 to be a double renumbering of the 70 via the P11, then that's covered a fair chunk of South East London. Greenwich to Victoria via both Westminster and Lambeth Bridges, the odd early journey to Monument, straight along Lower Road to Greenwich and on to Eltham, or around the Rotherhithe Peninsula and down to Peckham. There were also garage journeys apparently direct from Victoria to Peckham.
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Post by overgroundcommuter on Feb 17, 2022 21:07:23 GMT
Route 78 started off being Shoreditch to West Wickham, extended to Croydon Airport on Sundays, curtailed first to Lower Sydenham, then Dulwich The Grove, later Dulwich The Plough, later extended to Forest Hill, then cut to Peckham Rye and then extended to Nunhead.
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Post by aaron1 on Feb 20, 2022 10:56:45 GMT
117 Shepherds Bush Green to Egham Station
210 Golders Green to Leyton Midland Road Station
these must be fun routes to do 8 Old Ford or Bow Church to Alperton and 2 Arnos Grove to Crystal Palace
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Post by MKAY315 on Feb 20, 2022 11:06:57 GMT
There's the 37 which started from Old Kent Road to Hounslow Heath.
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Post by aaron1 on Feb 20, 2022 11:25:12 GMT
27 Archway to Hampton Court
68 South Croydon to Chalk Farn
86 Limehouse to Upminster
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Post by twobellstogo on Feb 20, 2022 11:34:59 GMT
There's the 37 which started from Old Kent Road to Hounslow Heath. And has also had garage journeys to New Cross Gate.
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 20, 2022 17:34:50 GMT
The 90 and its successor routes have a spread that reaches out to West Brompton (190), Staines (290), Heathrow Airport (490) and even South Harrow at one point, which was served by the 90b - indeed today's 90 is not the original route, which ran from Kew Gardens Station to Staines, but part of the 90b renumbered. Kew Gardens Station was also served by the 90 group, which also had garage journeys in service at times to Turnham Green (V) and Hounslow (AV). The route was also changed in the Fulwell area in April 1970, to facilitate crew changes when the old Twickenham (AB) Garage was closed and the route was transferred to Fulwell (FW).
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Post by aaron1 on Feb 21, 2022 10:54:44 GMT
There was a 59A or 159A from West End Green to Addiscombe
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Post by mark on Feb 21, 2022 16:57:16 GMT
The X26 has its origins in Green Line 726 which linked Gravesend and Windsor.
Mark
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 21, 2022 17:37:02 GMT
The X26 has its origins in Green Line 726 which linked Gravesend and Windsor. Mark I will have to think if there are any more TfL routes that are descendants of, or direct replacements for, Green Line routes. I suspect not, as Green Line routes tended to run along corridors where there were already red bus routes. The only one I can come up with - and it isn't even a TfL route - is Stagecoach's 715 between Kingston and Guildford. This is a surviving segment of the original Green Line route which ran between Hertford and Guildford although for many years it ran via the Kingston By-pass and not through Kingston itself.
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Post by thekbq14 on Feb 21, 2022 21:09:33 GMT
The X26 has its origins in Green Line 726 which linked Gravesend and Windsor. Mark I will have to think if there are any more TfL routes that are descendants of, or direct replacements for, Green Line routes. I suspect not, as Green Line routes tended to run along corridors where there were already red bus routes. The only one I can come up with - and it isn't even a TfL route - is Stagecoach's 715 between Kingston and Guildford. This is a surviving segment of the original Green Line route which ran between Hertford and Guildford although for many years it ran via the Kingston By-pass and not through Kingston itself. 726/X26 is the only tfl ran Green line based route that is still about. There is the 724, which was essentially the northern version of the 726, which is still running from Heathrow to Harlow by Arriva. There is the 755 and 757 are still running to Luton from Victoria. And finally the 702 and 703 out to Windsor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 2:38:36 GMT
The X26 has its origins in Green Line 726 which linked Gravesend and Windsor. Mark I will have to think if there are any more TfL routes that are descendants of, or direct replacements for, Green Line routes. I suspect not, as Green Line routes tended to run along corridors where there were already red bus routes. The only one I can come up with - and it isn't even a TfL route - is Stagecoach's 715 between Kingston and Guildford. This is a surviving segment of the original Green Line route which ran between Hertford and Guildford although for many years it ran via the Kingston By-pass and not through Kingston itself. The 465 covers what used to be Green Line route 714 between Dorking and Kingston. When first introduced it went to Horsham. With various differences at the southern end in between such as the birfication to Effingham Junction and to Goodwyns Estate just south of Dorking and Capel. The 293 used to run as far as Mertsham and Walton on the Hill. Not a Green Line replacement route though. It wasn’t that long ago that on Sundays you could travel on a 14 all the way from Putney to Hornsey . Or MS Eves and Sundays on a 27 Richmond to Archway. But for geographical reach on TfL services or predecessor London Buses: it was the night bus routes that covered the biggest mileage. London United’s N67 all the way out to Egham and London Centrals routes to Hemel Hempstead, Watford and Gillingham !
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Post by danorak on Feb 22, 2022 23:55:40 GMT
The site just ate a long post so I'll give you the edited version! It's another one that doesn't really qualify for a number of reasons, but I thought was mildly diverting.
The 23, formerly from Aldgate out to Becontree Heath, before becoming a 15 tribute act and eventually taking its number (the 15 itself becoming 15A). Then being effectively reborn out of itself as Westbourne Park to Liverpool St, then getting hacked back and contorted to run to Hammersmith.
But what made me think of it was the aborted plan to turn it into a service to Wembley. It would have effectively moved east-west across London.
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Post by danorak on Feb 25, 2022 8:57:34 GMT
Mention of the 485 on another thread jogged my memory of this: it started off as a Richmond - Ham service, looping indirectly round through Mortlake and Kingston. Successive changes have turned it into a Wandsworth - Hammersmith service.
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Post by twobellstogo on Feb 25, 2022 15:09:39 GMT
The X26 has its origins in Green Line 726 which linked Gravesend and Windsor. Mark I will have to think if there are any more TfL routes that are descendants of, or direct replacements for, Green Line routes. I suspect not, as Green Line routes tended to run along corridors where there were already red bus routes. The only one I can come up with - and it isn't even a TfL route - is Stagecoach's 715 between Kingston and Guildford. This is a surviving segment of the original Green Line route which ran between Hertford and Guildford although for many years it ran via the Kingston By-pass and not through Kingston itself. No choice but to run that way of course, unless London Transport fancied forcibly converted to single deck RMCs 😂
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